Gamboa vs. Pac in a 6 rounder, right now, who do you favour.

really ! he hasent shown anything ? wow I wonder wish prospect has, Id like to see that

 

No prospect has, thats why they are "prospects". If they are ready to beat up on top 5 p4p fighters, I assure you they wont be wasting their time with these small fries. They would be gunning for money straight away and thats with big fights. Theres guys liek Barios, Juarez, Soto, Valero, B level fighters to feed on. Heck he could even fight guys like Velasquez and Solis but as it is, he hasnt even fought that level of comp yet. That is because his managementobviously dont think he would be beating p4p right now.

 

There are no videos of him, unfortunately.

 

ok you're talking bull****, first of all I have said over and over again in my other topics about gamboa that it will be hard for him to land big name fights because people wont want to fight him, if a fight with Gamboa would be offered to all those names you mentioned i can asure you that all of them would refuse to fight him with the famouse lines "Gamboa is not a big name yet" see Gamboa would fight anybody you put him with right now, but on the other hand those guys would not fight him, and i dont blame them "why fight a guy that can beat when you are more famous, and can make more money fighting other guys that wont fight gamboa neither ?"

 

There are only a handfull of real A class fighters. The rest are A- at best.

And I don't hate Dawson at all. I think he's a joke as a man and as a fighter, but I think he is very skilled and a very good boxer indeed. I'm not convinced of his chin, mental strength (tactical decision-making and game-plan implementation) and his defence is not much better than good, right now, but he is still quite inexperienced and defence takes a long time to develop right. In any case, whatever I think of him as a man and as a fighter, I don't underrate him as a boxer, when I analyse him in fights. I try to be as objective as possible, whether I am a fan or not, when I analyse.

 

I don't know why he would think I'm anti-Romanian. That seems silly, especially considering that I was born in Moldova and Romanians aren't that much different than the average person in Moldova. I've disliked the hype Diaconu gets ever since the Hoye match and that's the only reason I disliked him.

The pro-Slav thing could be partly true, but I'm not even close to as extreme as the idiots on the internet who blindly nuthug every eastern-euro fighter just because they're white. Of course I cheer for Russian fighters and I like Povetkin even more because he's Russian, but I actually dislike most eastern-euro fighters because their styles are usually boring. In fact, outside of Tszyu, Povetkin, and a few others, pretty much all of my favorite fighters are Latino or black.

So what's the point of bringing him up? We all have videos of Gamboa and see how unbelievably talented and comfortable in the ring the guy is. Again, I will stick to my opinion that having experience at the top level doesn't mean as much as people think it does. It obviously means a lot, but it doesn't mean everything. Can you not see how Gamboa could give Pac serious problems right now?

And you still didn't answer my Roy Jones questions..

Howabout the multiple anti-Dawson threads that you started after calling yourself a fan of his? After Diaconu looked like absolute ****, you didn't stop being a fan. Also, how could you say things like "Dawson is a joke as a man"? That's nonsense.

I'll be back in another 20 minutes after I water some plants, this arguing is pretty fun. Decebal, I really don't have any kind of agenda despite what you may think. Some people on this forum also think I blindly follow everything that Amsterdam says, which isn't true either. I simply look at matchups the same way he does. Brooklyn looks at them in a similar way too and I agree with him more than anybody on here, but since he's extremely humble and I get a little arrogant on here sometimes, people accuse me of following Amsterdam and not him.

 

That term then will be used to describe Gamboa's realization if ever they fight today.

I might agree with you that Guzman can trouble Pac, given his recent showings against B-level fighters, but Gamboa, at this point, with only 9 fights as a pro, and is HEAVILY FAVORED to beat Pac? Please.:dead

 

You will not get mainstream exposure until you fight a mainstream fighter. Fighting 10-20 more bums wont increase Gamboa's profile anymore than it really is. Every boxing fan out there already know who Gamboa is and should a fight between him and a decent B level figher occur, people will buy it. Or are you saying hes just that feared he will never land a big fight, ever? There's a reason why the 1st guy hes fought had a 6-1 record and not 40-1.

 

Essentially what you guy's are saying is that Gamboa is a p4p H2H top 3 fighter now.

Which is impossible to judge at this stage because he is fighting NOBODY in the league of p4p fighters they are so far from a p4p list the list is a dot to them. When Pac just put up a great fight against a p4p elite and won a fight, or lost it just, who he has a massive massive stylistic disadvantage against.

There are very few fighters that could brawl with Pac in the history of the divison's he has been in. Also in refrence to Gamboa changing up his style, he cannot be worse stylistically for Pac than a p4p elite in Marquez.

Also with regards to the Jones vs Pavlik comparison.

Gamboa is not as good as Roy Jones and Pac is MUCH better than Pavlik

 

I didn't say that Gamboa should be HEAVILY FAVORED against Pac, I said that if I had to bet my life on one fighter in their matchup I would pick Gamboa. And Guzman wouldn't just "trouble" Pac, he's a proven true elite with an iron chin and he would beat Pac wide.

 

The argument had to do with how much pro experience at the top level matters. If Jones was a prospect with less than 10 fights right now and someone made a thread saying that Jones would beat Pavlik, people would be saying the same thing about the importance of top level experience. Yes, Pac is much better than Pavlik. Gamboa is looking equally as good as Roy Jones was when he was a prospect.