Gamboa vs. Pac in a 6 rounder, right now, who do you favour.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Amsterdam, May 8, 2008.


  1. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac will put the knock on him.
     
  2. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What C level comp again? Gamboa has fought D level opponents at best, if that.
     
  3. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Just balancing things out, you know! People like you were overrating Dawson like mad! I was just bringing people back to the floating line.

    I am not a big fan of Diaconu. I like his aggressive, committed style - it's great for professional boxing, but I dislike his lack of discipline, his laziness, his wishful thinking...On the other hand, I don't think Diaconu is a joke, like Dawson.

    I write about Diaconu because I know a lot about him; I can bring new information that people here don't have access to. If I was from Colombia, I'd write more about Zuniga, Berrio and Miranda.

    I also write about him because he's been wronged by Dawson.

    I want to see Diaconu get that fight, win or lose. It's good for boxing.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Un-****in-believable.... :patsch Can someone remind why people kiss Amsterdam's ass on this site? He doesn't even post intelligent ****. Just piggy backs on better poster's post like brooklyn and states the obvious on others.


    BTW...it's much easier to look phenomonal this early in a career then later when you step up later. Oops...guess I just stated the obvious too..:roll:
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Inkin we have to leave out...we just don't know anything about him. His chin doesn't seem to be very good; in any case, we cannot assume it is.

    Froch has a better than very good chin! Still, Pavlik WOULD land that jab and right a lot. Froch also has the power to take Pavlik down, remember! Unless Pavlik outboxes him for long enough to hurt him/TKO him, you have to give Froch a good chance, especially early, to finish the fight. Dawson doesn't have anything like Froch's chin OR power. He has other advantages over Froch, but against Pavlik, they are not critical, I think. Pavlik WOULD land that right hand, for sure, and once he does, Dawson is in trouble. This is a fact no one can deny. Pressure has nothing to do with it. If Pavlik can survive the early rounds, he's got to be considered the big favourite. With Dawson it only takes two, three good punches and he's out on his feet. Pavlik is a good finisher.
     
  6. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    Why would you even think anything of my ethnic politics? :lol:

    Yes, it's a big deal to blow all of the fighters out like he did already and look as great as he did doing it. He's clearly more than your typical rising prospect who has a string of KO wins, his skills as a young pro are some of the best the sport has seen in modern years.

    What agenda do I have against Diaconu? I didn't like the hype he was getting and I said what I thought of him in countless Diaconu threads (all opinions of him that turned out to be true BTW). I liked to joke around with you guys about being anti-Diaoconu and it was all in good fun. I don't hate the guy or have a secret agenda against him, I just said how I felt about him as a fighter when everyone was hyping him up.

    Recently, I disagreed with Amsterdam about Margarito-Cintron too. Yes, I don't disagree with him often. Why? Because again, I look at matchups in a similar way and have similar opinions about fighters that he has. I also have a semi-arrogant attitude sometimes which pisses a few people off, similar to Amsterdam's attitude and way of expressing his thoughts that pisses people off. What "agendas and positions" am I constantly trying to defend? :lol: Dude, a large portion of your posts are about things happening behind the scenes in the boxing world, not analysis. We all talk about things other than analyzing matchups. "His record lately has been slipping"? He's still doing well in the predictions leagues. I don't remember too many he got wrong that a lot of top posters got right other than the Rafa Marquez fight and the Cintron fight. The JMM pick was a correct one.

    Oh ok, these are the agendas you're talking about.. :lol:

    This is pretty nuts. I have my own opinions about fights before I read Amsterdam/Brooklyn's opinions on them. I could swear to you that on 90% of occasions, I have an opinion about the way a fight will go and then later on I read that Amsterdam/Brooklyn see it the exact same way. We just look at boxing and matchups in a similar way, why does it have to be that I'm following someone else's opinions or I'm afraid of expressing my real opinions? :lol: You're getting carried away man. Everything I post is my true opinion, it's not influenced by what I think other top posters will think. I could also give you multiple examples where I thought a certain way about a fight and they didn't, then later on they did (such as JMM-Pac II, a fight I favored JMM in before the Juarez fight).
     
  7. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Huki/Amsterdam/Brooklyn is the elite analysing triumvirate at ESB until Magnum returns, because Magnum is an analysing triumvirate on his own, it's like he has 3 brains when it comes to boxing, we cannot compete against such mastery.

    I find it funny how the three listed above get lumped together in either praise or disdain so much.

    PS - My prediction record has gone down a little, but I am still one the tops, out of 36 picks in Kirk's league, I have 9 wrong, 3 were robberies and 1 was Zelenoff. So I got 5 legitimately wrong for this year as to calling the fights. Big deal.

    Magnum would be 36-0 with 36 KO's in Kirk's league.
     
  8. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Froch is way too open not to get hit and hurt by Pavlik. I feel Froch will get exposed as soon as he fights top fighters. Robin Reid was taking it to him while it lasted.
     
  9. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    huki, you've been brainwashed into thinking about boxing in Amsterdam's way. Amsterdam has a very strong personality and you have succumbed to it, without noticing. You THINK your thoughts are your own, but they are not, mate...:-( ;) What is funny, though, is that Amsterdam CAN think objectively, if he really wants to. He's mostly just having a laugh and providing entertainment and controversy - which is great for this forum. Not sure YOU can think objectively, about certain subjects. One of them is Diaconu, for example. You have said, for example, that Diaconu has just average power, a poor chin, no mental strength, no talent and no technique. This is of course ridiculous! But you still believe it, even when all evidence points to the contrary...
     
  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yes...but Reid is very experienced and knows what he's doing.
     
  11. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But at the same time his skills have eroded and he still showed the flaws in Froch.
     
  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    And it's fine that Lance and a few others think I'm worthless when it comes to analysation and picking fights, when they themselves are constantly wrong or just analyse nothing anyway.

    The only thing Lance analyses on here are other posters and then posts his conclusion on what he thinks of them.

    But that's okay, I'm sure he's a nice guy in person.:yep
     
  13. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    The very problem is that the three of you have become an institution so much so that you feel you have a reputation to uphold. This means you band together for comfort. This is not good. As Nietzsche would say: The Uebermensch needs to stand alone if he is to stand true. Only the weak look for confort in banding together with others...:bart
     
  14. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Skill hasn't eroded, just his physical ability. A prime Reid is a level up from Pavlik also, think about that.
     
  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yes, he did. We still don't know how good Froch is because he's just a prospect!