Gans-Nelson 1 1906

How could anyone think Siler was partial to Gans in the McGovern fight? Ignorant, as if that fixed fight proved anything at all, but weve down that road before, despite all evidence Mendoza thinks the result was legit. LOL.

Watch the film dip****. Siler escorts Gans back to his corner because McGovern hit Gans as the bell rang. Gans goes down and Siler helps Gans up who then tries to go after McGovern whose back is turned and is heading back to his corner. Siler grabs Gans and starts walking him back to his corner to keep the fighters separated. Only you would "misconstrue" that as Siler being partial to Gans.

 

Just to clarify, I was talking to Mendoza, I understood that you missed have missed that part.

 

Finally finished. Whew. What a project. I found a keystone in the old newspapers though and that helped move things along. Apparently the entire fight was never shown theatrically. The longest version of the fight shown theatrically only showed extensive pre-fight footage, rounds 1-21, rd 28, rd 37, and rounds 39-42, and about five minutes of footage after the fight showing the fans and police swarming the ring. This footage was still incredibly chopped up with bits and pieces edited out of place all over the film. I found pre-fight footage edited right in the middle of the round. An early round edited near the end of the film. Half of round 39 edited around 19. Unreal. Anyway. Most of those rounds are complete or close to it barring round 21 which less than half of exists. I also found sheet music by Eubie Blake who got his start playing in Gans' hotel. The sheet music is entitled "Goldfield Rag." My sister is a piano player and Im going to get her to record it and use that as the theme while the opening titles are rolling. The pictures originally ran about two hours, maybe a bit longer. In its current state the film runs an hour and 40 minutes. This is about right considering its missing probably two minutes of round 21, 4 minutes of post fight footage, probably 10 minutes of pre fight footage showing scenes around Goldfield which had little to do with the actual fight, and small, relatively inconsequential edits and film breaks throughout the fight, that over the course of the film add up. All in all its a wonderful record of the fight and its remarkable that it has survived in such a state. Im glad to finally put to bed a project that has been going off and on for nine years.

 

Whatever, outside of one crank who wants to believe the white fighter legitimately won, that fight is pretty much universally considered a dive and a very poor one at that.

Who gives a **** if its a sound film or not. You can tell clearly that the bell has rung which is what prompts Siler's actions that you misconstrue as favortism. The big hint to this is that Siler turns his head as the bell rings to acknowledge it and immediately tries to break the fighters BEFORE the KD and then waves off the KD as not counting. While he is doing this McGovern returns to his corner (which you didnt have to do at this time) and you can see his cornermen have already entered the ring as Gans is up at the extreme right hand side of the frame. Furthermore, even if none of that took place Silers actions still wouldnt be construed as favortism because in those days the bell saved a fighter who had been knocked down. The bell clearly rang, whether you wish to believe it was before or after which saved Gans. Escorting him back to his corner, after he was clearly headed toward McGovern would be the right thing for any ref to do.

If you choose to believe that a bantamweight could hurt a bigger guy who took punches from some of the biggest punchers in history who also happened to outweigh that bantamweight significantly and that the goofy acting job of going down from punches that dont even land was legit then so be it. I hope I have the opportunity to sell you something someday, Ill make a lot of money.

 

Its kind of funny. I used several different methods: 1. I used the shadows on the ring as a sun dial. 2. I used the positions of people in the audience. And 3. In Gans corner, through much of the fight is a spit bucket and a water bottle. Those items changed position between rounds as they were being used by cornermen but during the fight when they werent in use they were stationary. You could match up disparate pieces of the film using that bucket and bottle.