garcia is ducking Herrera

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  1. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm sure he hoped to have a KO in front of the PR crowd, that's probably the only place he was disappointed in himself. As far as winning the fight, I never saw any sense of urgency, which is the tale of someone who felt they could lose the fight.
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    He didn't look they worried when he couldn't KO Zab and Lucas.
     
  3. Just Rik

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    As pointed out, those fights weren't in PR, a place where he had pressure to impress as it was his first time fighting there and where his ancestral blood comes from, then he was fighting the classic rival, a Mexican. Trust, he was hoping to KO Herrera and make the big statement to PR, that was only thing he failed at. He knew he got the win, you could tell because he never felt any urgency, matter of fact it was Herrera who made it a point to come out strong in the 12th, Danny willing to concede it to him, and Danny actually did some dancing away at the end the 12th.

    That is the sign of a fighter who knows he just has to hear the final bell to get his victory. Danny's father probably made his next fight, he sounded worried, but that's probably only because he underestimated Herrera, he has nothing to worry about. At the end of 8, you could hear Angel tell Danny "you can knock this guy out" not "you need to knock this guy out" that tells me if it was the plan from the get. It's Angel that is shook because he thought he could get a KO from Herrera (that's of course what you want in front a PR crowd, being PR, fighting the first time there, and against a Mexican) but he just had Herrera underestimated.
     
  4. CST80

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    We're not going to agree, I think Herrera has made Danny both during the fight and after doubt himself, maybe it is his handlers that don't want him to fight Mauricio, maybe not. But I believe Danny has lost a lot of confidence, which is soul destroying to know deep down your not as good as you thought you were.
     
  5. Just Rik

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    After maybe, with all the people saying he lost, during I don't think so. I don't know what was up with the commentating during that fight, they said all kinds of strange things, at one point in a Danny had dominating the time Berinstain says "Herrera letting Danny win a round in which he had been winning" I was in shock thinking, where , when?? In another he says "this round very hard to score, Herrera putting in good work but the round is hard to score"

    This tells me he was trying to find a way to give it to Herrera. In another round they both land big shots on each other at the same time, he never once acknowledges Danny's shot and talks only about Herrera's. I don't think it's anything shady, I think they were just carried away with Herrera's competitiveness and were giving him all kinds of brownie points.
     
  6. CST80

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    The Showtime crew try to spin the fights towards their preferred fighters, they twist reality to please their masters Haymon and Schaefer at the time.

    But when what they want to happen and what is really happening don't mesh, they have to go off script in order to not lose all credibility, Bernstein and Paulie shill up to a point but they have too much pride to flatout lie to the audience.

    "Herrera letting..." They are saying he is not doing enough, he's letting the round slip away, he could win it if he tried harder. As far as the hard to score comment, some of the rounds were hard to score.
    I had Herrera winning 8-4, I also picked Herrera to win before the fight, Garcia fans were underestimating Herrera's talent, I knew how good he was and it went as I expected it to.
     
  7. Border Patrol

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    Danny looked like a kid who learned that sometimes you just have an off night.


    We are getting carried away with Herrera hype. There is nothing that Herrera bought to the table that would trouble Danny more than anything Khan or Lucas brought to the table. His power was not enough to cause Danny fear etc. Danny simply was not on his A game and Danny knew this and fought his way to a win in a very sloppy fight.

    Rematch I cannot see Herrera having the kind of success he had in the firs fight. For all we know, Danny is simply not feeling right at 140 and taking one last fight at 140 until they can settle into an opponent for 147.

    Herrera looked good because Danny looked bad. A guy like Herrera who was supposed to suck, is given extra hype when he fails to suck as expected.
     
  8. MVC!

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    Danny Garcia beating Matthysse is the greatest thing that happened since slice bread

    It rivals KTFO6 in terms of generating hate/butthurt.
     
  9. Just Rik

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    They don't have to go "off script" they can just choose not to say anything positive about Herrera and mention when Danny lands more than when Herrera lands. This is how shady commentating is accomplished, (it is not a script) but, this is what they did for Herrera, not Danny. They were all too happy to talk about what Herrera was doing, what Herrera was doing was simply easier to talk about, his successes were more clear. His punches landed at the end of them for a clear appearance, they just didn't have much on them.

    That explains why the commentating was clearly pro Herrera but, yet, they said the fight was close throughout the fight and hard to score. They were carried away in their commentating by the presentation of Herrera's punches, found themselves talking about him much more than Danny, and I think they carried themselves away and definitely the audience. The audience is a definite because you had cries of robberies after, which something they didn't even utter. They actually were saying nothing of the likes of a robbery case throughout the fight, as ultracompetitive (in the 10th) and should be a close fight in the 12th are not things you're gonna hear in a robbery case.
     
  10. Farmboxer

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    Herrera is the real champion, Garcia lost and everyone knows it. Garcia is a paper champion.
     
  11. Farmboxer

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    Yes he is. I'll bet that if Garcia watched the fight on video, he is even more afraid. You would think that Garcia would have the balls to get the fans respect back, but he knows better.............
     
  12. box4life11

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    You're the only one that's butt hurt over the Garcia vs Herrera result





    Keep promoting matthysse :hi:
     
  13. box4life11

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    True.

    Matthysse ruined him
     
  14. MetalLicker

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    Garcia is a fake champion like Peterson.

    Neither guy should have a belt right now. Herrera schooled his ass and got robbed. Anyone who scored the fight for Garcia don't know sh*t about boxing.
     
  15. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    garcia should give him a rematch, he rematched old shot to **** morales..