Garing Lane

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  1. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Right and that means he really didnt give it his best. I dont know about you but its kind of hard to watch a guy fight in a professional prize fight and have a giant beer belly. Its a bit embarassing to the sport in my opinion.
     
  2. TheGreatA

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    I best remember him for shutting out Albert Sosnowski, who boasted a record of 43 wins and only 1 loss at the time. The 23-14 Zuri Lawrence, with 0 KO's to his record despite being 6'4 and weighing around 240 pounds, outdid him in every aspect of boxing, even hurting the Pole in the late rounds.

    Perhaps best known for his highlight reel KO loss to Calvin Brock though.
     
  3. MRBILL

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    I have McNeely getting waxed inside 1 round by Butterbean somewhere....

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  4. Unforgiven

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    So, McGrain, you think Lane deserves more props for "trying his best" in fights, even though he didn't try his best at all in preparation for those fights ?

    I tend to believe that preparation is the most important ingredient to success. Anyone who doesn't bother to prepare isn't really trying.

    It's relatively easy to get in the ring and give your all, than actually get yourself into shape through training and making sacrifices.
    Truth is, you can find bums and tough guys in pubs who'd probably fight anyone anywhere and give their best in a boxing ring if you paid them a few thousand. They wouldn't have 1% of the stuff needed to buckle down and make the most of themselves though.
    Obviously Lane was better than that, he had skills, but that doesn't really make it any better. His laziness was obviously severe.

    To give him props as a "professional loser" seems odd to me. Like, if he'd actually made the most of himself and won a few more fights I supect he might be viewed as something less "admirable".
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    I share that opinion.
     
  6. McGrain

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    I obvioulsy like Lane. I don't feel "embarrassed for the sport" when I watch or upload one of his fights (obviously). Nor do I feel embarrassed when I watch Sam Peter's efforts versus Wlad Klitschko, James Toney's effort versus Sam Peter, Cockel's efforts versus Marciano and LaStraza, Galento's effort versus Louis etc. etc. Why are these embarrassing, because the men are out of shape? Nah.

    In the fight i've uploaded, Garing is semi-retired and 30lbs heavier than his last title challenge. Like Galento or Toney he is grossly out of shape for one of his final fights. Unlike them, he doesn't have access to the very best of training and notice.

    He goes into the ring and puts it all on the line anyway, against a fighter who is 4 or 5 classes above him. That's an embarrassment? That's not worthy of respect?


    Running a fighter like this down because you don't like his body is the embarrassment IMO.
     
  7. lefthook31

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    I have that fight too. McNeeley was on crack during that fight. He was in horrible condition.
     
  8. McGrain

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    He takes hard fights on short notice. He made certain lifestyle choices, sure, but I think it's more important that he tries when he gets to the ring with his life on the line, and I think that's worthy of respect.

    As i've said, i'm not interested in arguing the point with you, you seem to find him disgusting and don't respect him due to his weight, and i'll just leave you to that opinion.

    I will say the above is ****ing stupid, though.
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    Sam Peter was in pretty good shape for both his fights with Wladimir Klitschko.

    If Lane looked like that, I certainly wouldn't assume him to be lazy. Truth is, Lane was much much fatter.
     
  10. McGrain

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    :huh
     
  11. lefthook31

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    Comparing Lanes fitness to Peters and even Toney's is a stretch. Thats what hes implying. Lane was a lot fatter.
     
  12. TheGreatA

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    Lane was always a big guy but to be fair to him he was 41 years old against Chagaev. The guy was probably not even training anymore when they came calling for him and offered a decent payday. In his day he was not really any more overweight than the likes of Sam Peter and Odlanier Solis, and that's the true embarrassment. Lane never tried to fool anybody.
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    :lol:

    You don't want to argue, you just want to call my statements "****ing stupid" ! :rofl

    Actually, the hardest part to success for any athlete is to get into the gym and dedicate yourself, consistently, year after year, into being in the best shape, physically and mentally. To tailor your lifestyle around being a professional athlete. Even when times are hard and outside life is distracting.
    The actual game/event/fight itself is tough too, and requires some special quality, but it's just a small part of overall full-time requirements of a DEDICATED athlete.
    And you think such a suggestion is "****ing stupid" ? :patsch

    Garing Lane didn't bother, didn't have a professional attitude to conditioning, clearly. Didn't even seem to have a half-measure of that attitude to adjust his lifestyle. He lacked that professional pride, his excess flab indicates that.
    There should certainly be no need to argue these points - they are self-evident. :good
     
  14. McGrain

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    He says "if Lane looked like that" though?


    If Lane isn't worthy of respect because he turned up out of shape against Chagaev, then I don't see why Toney turning up out of shape against a fighter with whom he shares a platform in terms of training and ability is, and I don't see why Galento's turning up out of shape for Louis is either.

    You yourself have said he "didn't really give his best" because he's not in shape. Nor did Galento in that case.
     
  15. McGrain

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl yeah!

    If it was unclear i'll be specific - I'm not interested in arguing with you about your opinion on Lane. Your dying to, but i'm not interested. I find it objectionable and find you to be more tied to your rhetoric than any other poster - we'll get nowhere.

    When you wrote that "it's easy to give your all in the boxing ring" though, I found that astonishing. I don't know what boxing you are watching. I watch Sky Sports broadcast most weekends and professionals quit, spoil, fight to surivive, give half-tone efforts, run and stink the place out on undercards most weeks. What you said is very obviously not true. Even in title challanges fighters fail to give their best against intimidating opponents on big nights, we've seen it several times with the Klitschko brothers recently.

    Happens all the time.