Garing Lane

Lane fought Riddick Bowe twice. Lionel Butler fought Bowe in his pro debut.

 

He accomplished something that

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did not:

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That is to last the distance against hard-hitting Corrie Sanders (losing by 1½ points on the scorecards). :yep

 

I think Danny Williams and Kirk Johnson got criticized a lot for their lack of conditioning, especially in their big fights with Vitali.

Maybe they both could have been more successful at world level than they were IF they had come in better shape. Maybe Garing Lane could have been a contender if he'd shown more dedication too.
What's so wrong with pointing that out ?

Sorry, but if someone starts a thread about a sparring-partner type fighter who was a decent "loser" and was visibly in bad condition always, maybe the issue of him being out of shape will figure quite highly ... why all the shock over the fact that some of us might point out that he was fat and had a severe lack the professionalism needed to get to a higher level ?

I mean, the whole premise of the thread is that he was an interesting "loser", a third-rater, a punching bag who showed surprising nous and skills at times.
Why the outrage over the fact that his disgraceful conditioning is mentioned, despite it being perhaps the primary factor in why he did NOT make the most of those skills ? (And why he ended up a loser more often than not.)

 

Danny Williams is 6'3" Garing Lane is 5'10 and he rarely came in under 270 his entire career. Not really being arguementative just discussing a fighter. You guys are getting all defensive for some reason? I like Lane too, I watched him spar with Lennox Lewis quite a bit down here in Miami. Cool dude but just saying what I saw with the guy.

 

Yes, but Garing Lane was really an early 90s heavyweight.
Different animal entirely to fighters these days.

There's no doubt in my mind he'd be champion in this era. :good

 

Huh ? :huh

I said what I don't respect about guys like Garing Lane. And you questioned me on it a few times, so I repeated it. GreatA agreed with your posts, Lefthook agreed with some of mine.
Then after a bit of an exchange, you decide the thread's been spoiled by an unecessary discussion and I'm the one hammering on about it, "in hysterics" or whatever.
If you weren't interested in my angle, you shouldn't have asked.

 

I believe the issue of the conditioning was made clear by McGrain in the very first post of the thread. You went at the guy rather viciously, cracking jokes at his expense until someone was eventually going to respond. Go ahead and look at your first posts again, it was needlessly harsh don't you think?

I'm not "defensive", I'm just putting it into proper perspective. There have been fighters who were given all the opportunities and they squandered them. Lane on the other hand was put in against the likes of Riddick Bowe from the beginning so you know nobody ever had it in their mind to build him up as a heavyweight contender.

The thing I respect about him is that he lived up to his nickname, the "Freight Train". Kept walking forward even when it meant taking a beating at the hands of a superiorly skilled and conditioned opponent.

 

Another reason why I know Garing Lane is because one of his big wins came against now-deceased Finnish celebrity Tony Halme, whom he stopped in the 5th round. Halme is best known for being given opportunities in politics, MMA, professional wrestling, acting, a singing career and boxing, and ultimately failing at each of them, miserably.

Here's footage of George "Scrap Iron" Johnson, the legendary 70's journeyman:

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Maybe because they saw his lack of dedication in the gym. 5'10 276 pounds for his pro debut. :yep Not trying to wind you up just trying to be realistic.

 

Not really. He was disgustingly fat in the Chagaev fight. That's what I said.
He's a professional fighter, (one with a thread dedicated to him, no less) not some female cousin we haven't seen for years : mentioning his ample flab shouldn't be a sensitive issue.

Obviously, that contribution to the thread was of minimal significance or interest.
I'm surprised by the offense it has caused though, especially since the ****-storm seemed to erupt more when I explained rationally what is wrong with badly-conditioned fighters.

 

Which seems to be a trademark of yours by now, first making either an outrageous or an insulting statement, causing an argument, and then debating that viewpoint to death. It's not surprising to be honest, because it is what you do and what you excel at. No offense intended as I have been guilty of similar "crime".

Just saying that there's no need to make an issue of it since everyone agrees that he was overweight and undedicated. Others were pointing out the good about this particular fighter while you stuck to pointing out the bad. That can get annoying.