Gassiev confirms Wilder is more powerful and more talented than Wlad.

I don’t require the respect of these limited ethnocentric xenophobes just some half decent discussions is all I want.

 

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You're points are all gobbledygook and i'll explain why.

Neither Wlad nor Joshua were in their primes in those fights , both were green and inexperienced. Wladimir Klitschko obviously went on to become a better and a harder to beat fighter so your claim the Purrity version was better is misrepresentation to suit your losing argument.

AJ fought and beat a better version of Wlad when he had less fights than Wlad when he lost to Purrity. What that says about Joshua is that he was a better fighter than young inexperienced physical primed Wlad AND the older more experienced Wlad. Can you understand the sentences im typing into the post box?

This doesn't make Joshua look worse , it makes him look better !

11 rounds it what it took Purrity to defeat a Wladimr Klitschko that was more experienced and had more fights than Joshua. No version of Joshua from 10 fights on would lose to Purrity. He was dealt a much sterner test against Wlad and came out of it the victor so Ross da Boss isn't posing him any trouble.

 

This is more gibberish. The year Wladimir Klitschko ducked Briggs is the year he knocked out White Wolf to become World champion. That was 2006 , Wladimir Klitschko fought Sultan in 2008 two years later.

What happened two years later is no reflection of what happened two years before. Klitschko was set to fight native New Yorker in MSG but pulled out to take an easier fight against Kalvin Brocks instead.

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Now if you go and revisit the Brock fight and witness the body beating Wlad took in the early rounds , you can understand why they ducked the hard body punching Briggs. At the time of the stoppage Brock had outlanded Wlad on power punches by a whopping 42% -32%
They ducked the Cannon. Bet you never knew that till now!

 

Thanks for the links i will check them out.

 

You still haven't answered my question yet. Was Shannon Briggs a champion / titlist / belt holder or was he a mandatory challenger to any of Wladimir Klitschko's? If not, then how could Wladimir Klitschko have 'ducked' him?

And again, the fight between Sultan Ibragimov and Shannon Briggs happened in 2007. Why didn't Briggs beat Ibragimov then when he had his chance, if he wanted to fight Wladimir Klitschko so much? Instead, Wlad fought the winner in Ibragimov and beat him. So what relevance does a loser like Briggs have in this discussion that lost in the previous round? Do you realize how silly you sound? That's like me claiming Oleksandr Usyk is ducking Yunier Dorticos, even though he is fighting the guy who beat him in Murat Gassiev.

When one is fighting the BEST POSSIBLE / AVAILABLE OPPONENTS at a time. You can't claim they are ducking anybody. Ibragimov was the better available opponent than Briggs. And when one is fighting their mandatory challengers, they can't be ducking anybody.

 

It's your points that are gibberish!

I'm comparing both Anthony Joshua and Wladimir Klitshcko when they were both the same age. And Anthony Joshua was losing to the likes of Mihai Nistor and Medzhidov whilst being gifted gold medals in the amateurs.

Meanwhile, Wladimir Klitschko would never lose to the likes of Nistor and Medzidhov either.

Name me one past heavyweight champion at age 40, that beat the next best heavyweight in the world younger than 10 years. It never HAPPENED! Ergo, Joshua beating Wladimir Klitschko MEANS NOTHING. It's meant to happen and it's normal.

Every other past heavyweight champion was either retired by that age, or were losing to much inferior opponents than Joshua. In other words, Joshua deserves very little credit for that victory until he himself fights an opponent 10+ years younger at age 41 and then beats them himself. Now that would be a true accomplishment!

Wladimir Klitschko against Anthony Joshua was coming off a 2 year lay off at age 41. You're not going to convince me that this was a better version of Wladimir Klitschko than the version that fought Ross Purity. At best, he was equally bad. Nobody at age 40 whilst being that inactive for that long is going to be anywhere NEAR their best. It's called 'RING RUST'!

If Wlad wasn't at his best against Ross Purity and you admit it, then why are you even bringing him up? It only proves my point. Which is that his losses made him a better boxer later on and those losses then became irrelevant. So what's the point?

Fact is, Anthony Joshua not losing to someone like Ross Purity is irrelevant because Joshua hasn't dominated the heavyweight division whilst remaining on top as the number 1 heavyweight in the world as Wladimir Klitschko did during his reign. Wlad's accomplishment > Anthony Joshua's accomplishment as it stands.

Either way, your entire argument is faulty because Anthony Joshua wasn't even in the pros at the age when Wlad lost to Ross Purity and Joshua hasn't even finished his career yet.

If you want to claim a 19th fight Anthony Joshua is better than a 25th fight Wladimir Klitschko. Then that's fine by me! But keep in mind that Joshua was helped by Wladimir Klitschko himself from a young age through sparring sessions and through tips he received. And he learnt from the mistake that Wlad made early on in his career. It really isn't a big deal for me!

 

This is an irrefutable fact. The last great heavyweight was Lennox Lewis and his record is impeccable.
The Klitschko brothers were good but it was the most boring reign in history.

 

Wilder gets knocked out by Purrity. Lennox Lewis best win was Tyson, who lost to some Irish bum soon afterwards. Try again Willy.

 

Vlad's skills were far superior to Wilders, so were Vitali's, no comparision!!! Vlad or Vitali would knock Wilder out right now!

 

You're intentionally playing the fool because you can't beat me in an honest debate. This is why i have so many haters on here , but credit to you for not lashing out in a rage like they do.

I'll explain this to you one last time. . Wlad ducked Briggs in 2006. Before Briggs fought Sultan. You can argue that there was no duck in 2007 after Briggs lost to Iggly if that makes you feel better , but that doesn't change the fact that Wlad ducked Briggs in 2006. .

You're not arguing with me on this , you're arguing against reality thats supported and backed up by evidence - court documents etc.

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Why the **** would Wlad "duck" Briggs when half the guys on his resume are BETTER than him? Dildo at his finest.

 

I believe you!
Can I have some billions?

 

I should have thought this through ...