Gassiev confirms Wilder is more powerful and more talented than Wlad.

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  1. BCS8

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  2. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nothing says ain't bother quite like living in another man's thread does it? What has you so shook?
     
  3. Luis Fernando

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    Someone who isn't a "big hitter" wouldn't be able to KO Eddie Chamber unconscious and Kubrat Pulev senseless, two guys who were never knocked out before or after by any body else. And Kubrat Pulev is the same size as Wladimir Klitschko.

    Someone who isn't a 'big hitter wouldn't be able to KO more previously unbeaten + UN-KO'ed opponents than anybody else in heavyweight boxing history.

    Wladimir Klitschko has faced far more durable opponents later on in his career than Deontay Wilder has so far. Guys like Samuel Peter was extremely durable. The opponents Wladimir Klitschko struggled to KO were guys who were in their primes + previously undefeated / UN-KO'ed + ranked in the top 10. How many boxers has Deontay Wilder knocked out who were in their primes + previously UN-KO'ed + ranked in the top 10? Exactly! So it isn't even a valid comparison!

    Oh and by the way, Deontay Wilder landed everything but the kitchen sink on Johan Duhaupas for 11 rounds and couldn't even drop him once. And Johan Duhaupas is one of the only few boxers Wilder faced who was in his prime + ranked CLOSE to the top 10 + someone who was previously UN-KO'ed. Still, this is the same Duhaupas who was knocked out unconscious by Wlad's left over in Alexander Povetkin in 6 rounds. So where was Wilder's " right hand that can knock you out immediately" against Duhaupas?

    Anthony Joshua is far superior in pretty much every department than Johan Duhaupas. So what makes you think Wilder could do to Joshua what he couldn't to Duhaupas?

    Oh and by the way, contrary to popular belief, Joshua has a solid chin, close to granite. To claim Wlad isn't a 'big hitter' for failing to KO Joshua, rather than giving Joshua credit for his chin is utterly ridiculous. By this logic, Wilder must have even worse power since he failed to KO an inferior Johan Duhaupas, right?

    And just so you know, Joshua has been tired in past fights too. But only Wladimir Klitschko managed to drop Joshua and not any of his past opponents. Why was that? Because Wlad's power is exceptional. Despite the fact that his timing was pretty much shot by the age of 41, especially in his left hook.

    Let us know when Wilder faces PRIME top 10 ranked boxers who are previously UN-KO'ed / unbeaten or have proven chins and let's see how Wilder struggles to KO such opponents. Until then, it isn't even a comparison! Wilder would struggle just as much, if not more to KO opponents like Jarrell Miller, Andy Ruiz Jr, Dominic Brezeale and Dillian Whyte as he did to stop Johan Duhaupas (who was Actually knocked out unconscious by Wlad's leftover in Alexander Povetkin).

    Oh and BTW, no other past heavyweight boxer at age 39 and 41 ever did better than Wladimir Klitschko by beating any heavyweight at the level of AJ or Fury. Nearly every heavyweight by that age was retired, or losing to inferior boxers like bums and journeymen.

    Wladimir Klitschko would've dominated this era as he did his own. Wouldn't have mattered. Tyson Fury ducked out of a rematch because he was figured out and a near shot Wlad managed to nearly KO Joshua. Other than that, where are all these tall super heavyweights you're referring to. The rest are all inferior anyway, just like there were TALL super heavyweights during Klitschko's era but they were also rendered useless beause of how superior Wlad and Vitali were.
     
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  4. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's ridiculous how overrated Wilder's power is getting. FIRST LET HIM PROVE HIS POWER AGAINST IN-PRIME, TOP 10 RANKED OPPONENTS THAT HAVE PROVEN CHINS BY BEING UNDEFEATED / PREVIOUSLY UN-KO'ED. Until then, I don't even think Wilder hits harder than Joshua, never mind Wlad.

    Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder have 2 common opponents:

    1) Jason Gavern: Joshua KO'ed Gavern in fewer rounds and with fewer punches than what Wilder required, but still KO'ed Gavern more cleanly.

    2) Eric Molina: Demolished in 2 rounds by Anthony Joshua and with far less punches whilst Wilder needed 7 or 8 extra rounds and more punches.


    So where is this mythical one punch power right hand of Wilder? Most of Wilder's opponents are obscure boxers who were knocked out mutliple times before and after with suspect chins. Where are the durable opponents of Wilder, other than Ortiz who was nearing 40 anyway?

    Anyway, Wlad's KO win over Kubrat Pulev / Eddie Chambers > any KO win of Deontay Wilder.

    And Joshua's KO win over Dillian Whyte > any KO win of Deontay Wilder.
     
  5. dinovelvet

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    Do you have any idea how exhausting it is to wrestle a man twice your size? Even wresteling with somebody your own size is physically draining. Well , thats what Chambers had to deal with for 11.5 rounds against Wlad. 11.5 rounds of Wlads 245lb 6'5 body draped and pushed down all over his little back.

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/30/article-2010040-0CCE213000000578-927_634x422.jpg


    He even picked Wlad up in protest and to bring attention to his excessive fouling.


    https://media.gettyimages.com/photo...f-ukraine-during-picture-id97911858?s=612x612

    Fact is Wlad would never have came close to stopping Chambers if Eddie hadn't been drained to a zombie from all the holding.

    Now ask yourself why was Wlad even fouling such an opponent to the extent he was?? Your boy Wlad was a cheating bum .. Fact!!
     
  6. Luis Fernando

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    Being drained doesn't make one susceptible to getting knocked out unconscious like how Eddie Chambers was in the last 10 seconds of the 12th round. That's an example of one punch power! Being drained will only make one tired, but wouldn't render them unconscious.

    And Deontay Wilder rabbit punches his opponents which is far more dangerous and makes boxers far more susceptible to getting KO'ed ILLEGALLY. But I'm guessing that's correct?
     
  7. dinovelvet

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    His legs were gone and he was staggering around like a drunk when that shot landed. That state absolutely does make one MORE susceptible to being knocked unconscious.

    Wlad hit Chambers with crushing blows throughout the fight when he wasn't drained and he never went anywhere , not even a knock down. The knockout was directly the effect of Wlads fouling paying off in the last round.
     
  8. Luis Fernando

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    No, it doesn't! Wlad rarely hit Chambers with his best left hook (his most powerful / effective knockout punch) until that moment. And when it connected, Eddie Chambers looked to have been dead for a few minutes whilst remaining motionless.

    I've seen other boxers, including Muhammad Ali clinching FAR MORE than the amount of times Wlad clinched Eddie Chambers but Ali almost never KO'ed any opponent unconscious like how Wlad KO'ed Eddie Chambers unconscious. Why was that?

    It wasn't even Wlad's most clinchiest fight either. Chambers has no excuses of going unconscious just out of tiredness alone. Tiredness would cause a stoppage like the stoppage which Golovkin got over Martin Murray. That type of knockout is based on pure power + accuracy + timing.
     
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  9. dinovelvet

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    Chambers was badly hurt in the second round after taking a flush power punch. He didn't go anywhere. Anybody could have flattened that half dead Chambers in the last round. His tiny frame was Reckt from holding up a 245 pound man for 11 rounds. What can't you understand about that?
     
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  12. dinovelvet

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    Wladimir Klitschko could not dominate during the first 10 years of his professional career , 96 -06. Beat nobody during that time and took 3 brutal knock out losses.

    He flourished post 06 because the division withered away into nothingness and because he took the fights to Europe where his bent rules and corrupt officiating allowed him to stay on top.

    One the division got good again and a superior skilled big man like Fury came along , Wlad took another embarrassing lop sided defeat. The first half of his career , when the division was actually good , tells you all you need to know about how good he really was. :icon_tfno:
     
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  14. BCS8

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    Dino "64-5. The guy was no good." :duh