Gassiev confirms Wilder is more powerful and more talented than Wlad.

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  1. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are going to make that dude cry if you keep going on like this. :lol:
     
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  2. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No disrespect to no one else but this fella right here cut through all my bull**** and told y'all straight without provocation. He should be respected.
     
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  3. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I actually have 3 cars the 3rd is a Honda accord which is my daily driver. Lol.:thumbsup:
     
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  5. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    I posted this a while back. Good post.
     
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  6. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Damn..!!!
     
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  7. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nobody ever stopped, never mind knocked Eddie Chambers out unconscious other than Wladimir Klitschko. So no, not anybody would've 'flattened' him.

    Wladimir Klitschko never once landed his best left hook on Chambers until that moment when he knocked him out. That punch in the second round that hurt Chambers wasn't his best.

    And again, there have been guys who were just as much, if not more tired than Chambers was against Wladimir Klitschko but weren't KO'ed unconscious. Fatigue alone, wouldn't have rendered Chambers unconscious. He would've still been conscious if he weren't hit by a punch as powerful as the one Wladimir Klitschko landed.
     
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  8. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So what if Wladimir Klitschko didn't dominate the heavyweight division when he first debuted? The Klitschkos were high risk and low reward type of opponents so they weren't going to be chosen voluntarily by a top heavyweight then.

    So what if Wlad lost a few fights? Not once has he been counted out in his entire 69 fight boxing career and he learned and then dominated after those losses.

    Your opinion about the state of the heavyweight division when Wladimir Klitschko dominated is totally irrelevant to me. Fact is, he stayed on top as the number one heavyweight in the world for a decade whilst cleaning up the division. That's a CONCRETE accomplishment.

    Every past heavyweight champion at or after age 37 was retired or losing to inferior boxers compared to Tyson Fury or Anthony Joshua. That includes Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes. So what if Tyson Fury beat Wlad whilst he was 39 years old? How about we wait when Tyson Fury is also 39 to see how he does against skilled big men?

    Also, Fury ducked a rematch against a 40 year old Wladimir Klitschko because he was too scared of losing. Realizing that he was figured out. At this point, Fury is no more proven than Buster Douglas. One win doesn't mean much!

    And it's not like boxers don't cheat in USA, right? Only Wladimir Klitschko cheats and is allowed to cheat because he fights in Germany according to you? But Deontay Wilder rabbit punching his opponents with his wild swings in USA is okay? Or Andre Ward low blowing the crap out of foreign boxers like Sergey Kovalev?

    Good job Wlad stayed a long way away from USA.
     
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  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Thats not the argument. . The circumstances that lead to the stoppage were directly linked to Wlad draining out his energy and reducing him to a zombie like state. That was caused from Wlad forcing all his 245 lbs weight down on his 6'0 frame for 11 rounds.

    Klitschko knocked out more guys with the right hand than the left hook. A fully loaded right hand hit Chambers clean in the second which jolted him across the ring. That punch would have cleaned him out in the 12th when he was a drained husk from all the leaning.
    This is basic level boxing we're talking about here.
     
  10. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You're a debutante during your first year as a pro. Klitschko didn't start dominating till after 2006 with 49 freaking fights under his belt.

    It took him over 50 fights to beat 3 top 10 rankers and to bring two belts together.

    Joshua is about to fight his 4th top 10 ranker and is about to unify 3 belts. He's only had 20 fights.
     
  11. BCS8

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    At a time when Wlad's leftovers in OLD Povetkin is a top boxer and Joshua's mando ... this era is worse than any time when Wlad was active. There are literally a handful of HW's that are worth mentioning.
     
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  12. BCS8

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    Oh, wow. Give Ronda Rousey my regards. ;)
     
  13. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wladimir Klitschko wasn't dominating early on because he had to work his way up the ranking the hard way. You know, not everyone has the Western luxury like Anthony Joshua being brought up in UK. The Klitschkos had to move from a poor, war torn country to a totally new country to gradually work their way up the hard way. And the Klitschkos tried to fight all the best available opponents. Even during the first 10 years of their careers.

    Wladimir Klitschko didn't have the luxury to face a 41 year old, inactive former world champion like Anthony Joshua did. That's where Joshua's main claim to fame comes from. From beating 41 year old, 2 year inactive Wladimir Klitschko.
     
  14. _Frankly

    _Frankly Bivolian! banned Full Member

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    You do know that by trying to undermine Vladimir you are actually undermining most of this current era don't you? Considering Joshua & Fury's legacy is mainly based on K2 era opposition?! You do know this right?! What you are basically saying is Joshua & Fury etc are fighting overrated frauds & bums :lol:

    Well done special officer doofy
     
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  15. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Stop EXAGGERATING! Wlad rarely clinched Eddie Chambers. In fact, that was one of Wlad's cleanest / least clinchiest performances of his entire career. Did you even actually watch the full fight?

    Yes, Wlad knocked more guys out with his right than his left. But his left hook is the punch that has caused the most impressive and the most brutal knockouts / knockdowns. And Wlad doesn't often throw his left hook, nearly as much as his right hand.

    Again, I've seen guys who were way more tired and clinched way more frequently than Chambers was by Wladimir Klitschko. But, most of those same guys weren't knocked out unconscious the way Chambers was knocked out unconscious.

    Lennox Lewis clinched the life out of a washed up, shot version of Mike Tyson far more excessively than Wlad clinched Eddie Chambers but even Lewis couldn't KO Tyson in that manner? Why was that? This is the same Tyson who was knocked out by Buster Douglas in his prime and more brutally by Danny Williams.

    Muhammad Ali clinched Joe Frazier far more excessively than Wlad did to Chambers. Why couldn't Ali even drop Frazier in over 20 rounds of boxing?

    You're the same guy who praises Fury. Yet, Fury is the one who was far more dirty against Steve Cunningham than Wlad was against Eddie Chambers. Fury actually KO'ed Cunningham with an illegal rabbit punch. Are you going give Fury the due criticism that he deserves or is it all Klitschko's fault?

    You act like Klitschkos never faced tall opponents. Yet, it is Fury who has faced fewer tall opponents than Wladimir Klitschko faced in his entire career. But surely according to you, it's only Wladimir Klitshcko who picks on smaller guys whilst Fury is totally innocent who is always facing 7 foot giants.

    You have no standards and objectivity!
     
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