Gatti Vs Naz @ 130- 1995-1996- Could have happened- who wins and why?

I think its hilarious how much signifigance you attach to a whole four pounds in weight and its DEVASTATING effect on Hamed's power (or subsequent lack there of).

 

I'm not interested in arguing the toss with people about this subject, but I was wondering if those who favour Gatti, do so because P4P they believe he was a better fighter than Naz, or because of the fact he was a huge 130 pounder, and Naz was a small featherweight, and therefore the size and weight advantages would be insurmountable?

 

Yeah, I understand. Its definetely a variable, makes it an interesting match-up :good

 

Translation = hands of putty is hopelessly unable to win this arguement but he claims he could "rip that whole piece of **** post to threads" & pray people will blindly take his word for it. I know exactly what I'm on about, which is why you're embarrassingly being pwned in your own thread.

Yes, the uppercut really hurt him.

So?? This wasn't pre Jimmy Garcia, this was post Jimmy Garcia + post being beat down by Nelson. Ruelas traded powershots with Gatti, period. There was no lovely box-punching. Stop making irrelevant points. They won't get you anywhere.

Everyone knew of Gatti's weight troubles/advantages. Try actually making a point on the subject.

WRONG! I've got the ring magazine issue which covers that fight, *****, to back up everything I've said. *I* thought it was a good decision. Plenty of ringsiders didn't. Ask anyone who has that issue of the ring.

:roll: It wasn't a knockdown at 1m49s. Hamed's feet tripped/slipped over Sanchez's. The ref called it correctly. Now you know what you're looking for, go watch it again on slow mo you blind slag. & I've already pointed out how he was rocked (2m55s). No kd there either.

No, I'm going to stay & continue to embarrass you in your own shitty thread.

 

Naz would be on the deck once or twice but Gatti blocked with his face........not a great idea against someone who has significant one-punch power.

Naz K.O 10........Gatti would be a state at the end of it, but would also have given Naz an absolutely rollicking punchfest.

 

With Naz's power I think Gatti's weight makes **** all of difference. Naz was known for having dropped Johnny Nelson in sparring, so much so that Ingle only allowed body sparring from there on in. And Nelson was one durable man.

Gatti was in wars with journeyman in his PRIME. Naz had back and forth battles with near-journeyman (for example Sanchez) when he was past-prime, and even then he rarely looked hurt. He had a formidable chin, and would catch Gatti coming in with one of his big shots.

As durable as Gatti was, he would not be able to take punch after punch from Naseem Hamed.

 

. All I've needed to do is make a few obvious & logical comparisons between the fighters discussed, which you yourself are seemingly unable to. Nothing silly or made up. Infact you're the one having delusions about knockdowns & having strange assumptions.

When the **** did I say that? You're delusional.

Obviously he wasn't the only one, which The Ring reported. Personally I couldn't understand the fuss. If you read about boxing back then before every noob had the internet you'd know all this.

Well it wasn't.

Knocked out? He usually gets stopped, which what I'd think would happen against Hamed. Please pay attention. Kelly was clearly more talented than Gatti, tho oviously not as tough. McCullough & Soto were tougher, but limited. Your questions can easily be thrown back regarding Hamed's offensive talent.

I've backed up everything I've stated, & fairly :good.

 

Yeah, apart from his reputation as one of the most powerful and devastating punchers in boxing history??

Like the poster who is owning you keep saying, 4lbs weight difference doesn't mean you can take a punch like Ja LaMotta - to head or body.

By your logic, Pacquiao's power would have been lost on Hatton after moving up several divisions. Except Hatton doesn't protect himself and Pacquiao's lower division power ended up dropping him like a sack of ****.

Exactly - this has Pacquiao - Hatton written all over it - a dangerous puncher dropping an opponent with substandard reactions and comparably poor defence.

Whatever, you're making yourself look a mug with all this Gatti revisionism. He got knocked down so many times in his career - before and after these all important wars - someone with the speed and power of Naz would be sending him down early. The fighters which survived Hamed all had great defences, good chins and slick counter attack skills(e.g Barrera) - Gatti had poor defence, took several batterings/knock downs and would sooner go to war than use any slick counter punching skills.

In another thread, I said Mayweather would school Naz, so I'm not a Naz lover - and you how I can to that conclusion by a similar logic. I'm not so sure about your love in with Gatti though.

 

Dick Turpin - why do you assume that Hamed would carry his power up when FAR more power punchers fighters fail to do so compared to those that manage it?

 

Let me tell you something, Hamed's punching power per-square-inch, would be exactly the same at 130 as it was at 126. Absolutely no question about that. Four pounds is not a significant amount of weight in this context and with regards to the specific issue of power which you raise. This modern trend of attaching so much significance to miniscule amounts of weight is getting ridiculous :roll:

The only variable would be, how are big ****ing 130 pounders like Gatti going to cope with Naz's power? It's not about his ability to carry the power up to some arbitrary weight, its about their ability and capacity to take it. Tito Trinidad took his power from 147 up to 160, that's a hell of a lot more significant than a whole four pounds.