Gavilan With Some Entertaining Footwork

I cant believe the bullsht coming from some people, no welter beats Gavilan of today's crop, that's not nolstagia, that's common sense

 

Gavilan's not as good as Guzman, seriously.:good

And you guys need to learn to ignore blatant idiocy.

 

I disagree, Guzman was robbed of the oppurtunity to school the best around for many years and is now steadily declining, but still impressive.

When he schools Pac, JMM and everybody at 135, will you retract that he doesn't deserve to be the same vicinity?

 

Funny guy! Are you joking though? I like Guzman's silky skills, but KID GAVILAN is a top 6 elite ww in the division's very rich history imo.

You cant compare these guys yet

 

Yea , late 90s most probably more so, but i rate Gavilan (on his beat day) as one of the very finest welters ever, hard to overcome, even for a great like Trinidad, and Oscar would just be outdone, Oscar is a very poor man's Gavilan imo

 

You fail to take into account the opposition he was in with. Bratton would have blocked or slipped a Jones leaping left hook and countered it. You need to watch Bratton and Gavilan in against lesser opposition, like most of Jones career, and see what they could do.

 

Bollocks...

Which one of today's fighters can quickly switch up to a right hand lead - left uppercut... or even put together a double left uppercut, let alone a right uppercut bolo and turn it over into a short right cross???

Do you even notice the step back... step back... then pull the head back without the step back and counter to catch opponent lungning in? Mayweather's the only fighter that executes that kinda **** today.

He would mix it ferociously with vicious punchers... and push them back in exchanges. He could dance and counter brilliantly. When he utilised his jab, it was up there with Hearns'.

Gavilan's resume would be the equivalent of fighting Margarito, Cotto, Hatton, Mayweather, Williams, Cintron, DLH, Mosley... all in the same year! Of course there's gonna be a couple of sub-par performances and losses!

The guy was an all-time great, and on his best nights, a top 5 welterweight...

 

Hmm.. that punch is still used (the way to throw it) by many Cuban amateurs.. maybe not EXACTLY the same, but it's a very effective and hard punch. And great to throw when someone's backing up (on the ropes) for example. I recommend taking a look at Hernandez in '96 Atlanta. Duvergel was also quite good with such a kind of punch.

PS.: Thanks for posting this great vid acb.. wow.

 

I don't like arguing era for era because this is the usual shitpit argument that happens.

Only thing you can do is view their successes vs their failures. On an achievement standing, it's easier to say the guys back in the earlier days fought tougher competition, but realistically, look at how many can's fought in that era.

And the shocking thing? Some of those cans beat these guys.

Ross Purrity beating Wlad was the closest I can think of that scenario happening these days.

 

Which brings me to the reason Marciano is so famed.

He was one of the few in that generation that never lost a fight. Doesn't matter that out of the 49 people he beat, he probably only beat 2 great fighters and about 8 "OK" fighters.. he's often put up there in the Top 2 or 3 ATG HW's

Give Marciano to Tyson, what do you think would happen?

Hell, give Marciano to Tua, what would happen?