Gaydarbek Gaydarbekov

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  1. vanargian_guard

    vanargian_guard Mini-Mandingo Full Member

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    Just thought, interesting name, would make for an interesting thread.

    No really though, looking over this guy's amateur record, you can't help but be impressed. A gold and silver at the olympics, European amateur champion. He holds wins Jeff Lacy, Jermain Taylor, Zolt Erdei and Gennadiy Golovkin, all guys who were rather sucessful as pros. Gaydarbek never went pro.

    My two questions for ESB's boxing gurus are: 1) why do some guys like this just not go pro, it makes no sense not to cash out on your obvious talent, and most importantly 2) how well do you predict he would've done as a pro?

    I've never seen him fight, not sure if videos on youtube exist, so I'm calling on the more knowledgeable posters here to enlighten me.
     
  2. Robney

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    There are more (multi) Olympic medal winners who never went pro, some just don't have it in them, others have high paying jobs, and some get injured.
    In this case I have no idea. Maybe he expected to be joked about because of his name. Maybe his father was a proud member of the Communist Party, and he wants nothing to do with fighting professionally. :huh

    He did expose Lacy before Calzaghe did though!
     
  3. Viking Worrier

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    He was sadly never able to come up with a suitable nickname.

    One can only dream of what his legions of fanatical followers would have been dubbed.
     
  4. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Disappointed he never went pro. He schooled everyone in Athens. He destroyed Golovkin who had destroyed everyone he faced.

    Taylor, N'Jikam, Erdei, Lacy. He really was top drawer stuff.
     
  5. VecArrow

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    He sounds like a Euro-level fighter, I'm sure he would of won belts at multiple weight classes.
     
  6. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Easy, easy! Winning a couple of Olympic medals doesn't make you an "Euro level fighter". There's a lot more to it than that! He would probably beat the sh#t out of the top Ameri-Cans, but Euro level is not so easy to reach! :bart
     
  7. vanargian_guard

    vanargian_guard Mini-Mandingo Full Member

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    What's wrong with being called the Gaydars?
     
  8. vanargian_guard

    vanargian_guard Mini-Mandingo Full Member

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    Yes, this phenomenon exists, I've seen many great Russian olympians not go pro. It seems wierd, what job could they possibly find that would pay more than fighting bums for tens if not hundreds of thousands for your first 15 fights? I doubt he was against fighting professionaly, its not that era anymore. Maybe he did get injured though.
     
  9. BigBone

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    Pro boxing is very weak in Russia, no monetary backing to go pro or the kind of sponsorship to stage expensive events, and despite some developement in the past couple of years, there hasn't been a breakout. So like with Cuba, the best stay in the amateurs and just a very few go pro, and they have to travel for all important fights. Povetkin fights out of Germany, Korobov out of the USA, Lebedev travelled to the UK and Germany, Pirog to the USA for the biggies, same with Provodnikov. Someone like Gaydarbekov would've had a very hard time breaking through and become popular in a foreign market starting at age 28 and prizefighting is business first.

    As Mike Tyson said, Russia and the former Soviet countries have the best athletes they just never go pro. There was Gaydarbekov and now there's Tishchenko who's also an awesome fighter, but it seems he's ending his boxing career at 26 due to some sort of injury I believe.
     
  10. clyde

    clyde Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My gaydar is twitching
     
  11. vanargian_guard

    vanargian_guard Mini-Mandingo Full Member

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    Russia doesn't have a pro program thats true, but like you rightly mentioned, these guys can easily go out of the country to fight pro. It's not like the Phillipines have promoters.
     
  12. BigBone

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    Come on man. Easily? If it was just turning up at a foreign promoter why would they miss out on such opportunity? It is not. No matter of the amateur achievements they still need a market and whereas Filipinos start out at 16-17 in the very crowded South-East Asian pro boxing scene for lunch money, and like one out of 1000(0) break through with some luck and likely early losses - you can't expect a Russian amateur star to be an 'opponent' for 1500 Dollars and you definitely don't expect top promoters bringing former amateur greats as 'opponents', so it's a dead end. It's a WHOLE different thing to the SE Asian scene. There most turn pro not by choice but by need of money to survive and you don't see many coming through during the years and years of fighting. Today in The Philippines several networks put major money into pro boxing and it has a very healthy scene whereas Russia there's no TV backing nor a healthy pro scene to get started out, nor the time for a 27yo former amateur to spend long years waiting for a breakthrough.

    If you want to turn pro, you either start locally with some mafia-ties promoter for minimal payment and the hope of getting noticed by bigger promoters, but due to the ties you'll always give half your purse away (like Valuev), or you get signed by a big foreginer promoter in the 1st day otherwise you don't have much chance, and you don't go to the promoters, they come to you.
     
  13. vanargian_guard

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    You seem to know what youre talking about man, so I won't argue, but it just seems crazy that no foreign promoter would want to pick up a guy with this kind of amateur pedigree. I mean generally, an olympic gold medal is like a meal ticket.
     
  14. Mr Pink

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    He's Euro-level.

    I believe Vasyl Lomachenko is gonna turn pro after the London games. He's already the real deal and will be a P4P star.:deal:deal:deal
     
  15. vanargian_guard

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    Lomachenko is legit.