GBP President Gomez: GGG must not fight BJS in June or it will jeopardize the Canelo fight!

If the fight happens, it happens. Anotherwords, you don't really care too much about the fight. You don't really care if you're fav fighter Triple G fights Canelo or not. The biggest fight in boxing, the remedy to the stench still emanating from the BS farce that was Pac vs Floyd. The fight that could actually live up to our expectation and satisfy our deepest boxing craving. but eh, you don’t really care if the fight happens or not. And you call yourself a boxing fan. Pathetic.

You just wrote “nobody cares about the lineal champion”. Then you wrote “are you high”. Listen to yourself. You’re comparing being lineal champion to eating lightbulbs. And you really think you can be a Unified Champion without being a Lineal Champion. Why don’t you provide me with some examples throughout boxing history of times when when a Unified Champion wasn’t a Lineal Champion.

All Canelo has to do to fight Golovkin was enforce his Mandatory status to one of the belts? So basically what you’re saying is you don’t want to see Triple G risk losing his belts to Canelo then. You want to slide in there and fight Saunders in June, and just run away trying to avoid having to fight Canelo. OK then at least we’re clear on who’s scared of who.

 

Noone is trying to give GGG excuse to not have to fight Canelo, people are giving him excuse to have to fight both Canelo Saunders, which is any sane boxing fan would ask for.

A member of GBP is the one putting an obstacle for the GGG/Canelo fight here, and you're supporting it by saying "I don't want the unisputed MW championship to be on the line for the fight. If GGG brings that to the table, It means he doesn't want the fight. He has to sit on his ass and wait, if he tries to get another belt IN THE MEANTIME, It means he's scared of Canelo". The only fanboy who's giving excuse for his favourite fighter to not have to take the fight is you buddy.

And when Tyson became the undisputed champion in 1987, everyone considered him the legitimate HW champion of the world, despite Michael Spinks holding the linea strap. If GGG gets past Jacobs and gets beats Saunders in the summer, he will be considered the legitimate and undisputed MW champion of the world by everyone except for crazy Canelo fanboys like you and lunatic GGG haters like nay sayer.

 

Surly if they agreed terms beforehand for the september fight and then GGG smashes up BJS in june,, canelo and GGG meet in the ring ala thurman/garcia that hypes the fight up more then any sh1tty tv interview/segment that they can do on this "promo tour' that for some reason takes up half a year before the fight is even meant to take place

none of the promo stuff gets interesting before fight week anyway its all nonsense in this day and age with social media you dont need to follow each other around different states for weeks on end,
for example have the GGG/Chavez media days really generated that much more interest that warrants such a time consuming tour? Or were the people who buy this fight going to buy it anyway regardless of the 15th interview of them talking the same rubbish back and forth?
Media tours and shows like this only work with larger then life personalities or genuine hatred .. they may be a bit of needle betweent GGG/canelo but nothing that would gain mass interest,,
what does gather the interest for these 2 fighters is them actually fighting and getting some exciting highlight knockouts

hype from KTFO out of a champion and collecting all the belts >>>>>>>>>> 4 months of ESPN interviews spewing the same rubbish while tryin to manufacture some false drama

i wouldnt minf neither of them speak that great english to hype up fights via interviews lol

 

Difference between legitimiate and unified. Didn't say Golovkin wasn't legit, just that his fans think he can become unified without being lineal. I mean it's just a conceptual fallacy to think that. Like I'm not looking or asking for proof like you need a freakin medal that says you're lineal to be unified. But just that Triple G fans would be fine not being Lineal Champ is where the problem is. Like you dont even want to be Lineal Champ, like it means nothing, it's just insulting to the sport of boxing. You don't need my approval to pretend you're Unified Champ, but if it really came to that it would be a truly pathetic. It's funny to think about, but in reality we all know that Triple G needs Canelo. What's he gonna say when Max asks him when is he fighting Canelo? What's he gonna say "ohh well I really don't want to fight him" I mean the guy would just be seen as a complete coward. Say what you want about Canelo, he's never been one to back down from a fight. Boxing politics aside, you know when Max asks him if he wants Golovkin he's going to say bring it on. But Triple G, I really don't know if he wants that work. There's a difference there, and you don't need me to see it. I predict Triple G isn't the coward that many of his fans make him. I think he'll step up to the plate and demand the fight. If he doesn't, the boxing public will be very disapointed. In all seriousness, I truly believe Canelo and Triple G can rescue boxing from the feeling that has lingered since Floyd vs Pac. I think once all the dust settles, we're in for an awesome year of boxing. And I don't want any more BS to get in the way of that. We deserve to see a fight of this magnitude happen. Maybe even a Canelo vs Triple G rematch if the decision is controversial. These two guys need to get past their next opponents, get the deal done and step into that ring and give the fans the type of boxing that boxing fans deserve.

 

That post must be what a kick in the nuts feels like

 

Wow, you're a massive canelo fan.. I love me some canelo too but he's yet to even fight a mw, you're claiming canelo is a champ at MW, I'm claiming canelo has no belt @mw and him relinquishing the wbc title rather than fight a true mw that, to me removed any and all relevance he might've had @mw.

The reason bjs is more important (for him, not a "bigger fight") is because bjs has that last REAL belt ggg has been chasing since 2008. Canelo will be the biggest fight but he's not winning anything except it's another defense added.
Ggg and canelo would be an absolute war and will take a lot from both fighters,neither will leave the ring as they walked in it.

I used to believe only kovalev would give ggg a run but it's been proven kovalev isn't close to these fighters levels. That belt has to be removed from bjs, idc if it's ggg or canelo either way I'm in.

 

Who said the lineal didn't mean anything? The argument here is, when a lineal champion of a division doesn't fight anyone in it and refuses to face top rated contender of the weight class, then it becomes meaningless, just like It happened with Michael Spinks, just like It's happening with Canelo.

Of course GGG will say "I want to fight Canelo" when Kellerman asks. He'll say he wants both Canelo and Saunders as he should. If Canelo says "I want GGG but only if he holds 3 titles, if he collects all the belts before, I don't want it." then It'll be Canelo who's reluctant to face GGG to any sane person. And Canelo already said bring it on before, only to delay the fight for 15 months.

And we all obviously want to see GGG/Canelo, and none of us want any more BS to get in the way. And GBP saying "we may not want the fight if GGG fights someone else 3 months earlier." is the very definition of BS getting in the way. If you claim GGG wanting to fight Saunders more than 3 months before the supposed Canelo date is putting an obstacle, then I'm sorry but you need to get your head examined.

 

Can you just tell me what does Lineal Mean to you? Like does it mean something. Should it be important for a guy that wants to unify to be Lineal? I'm just wondering what you think because this BS guy seems to not even think it means anything, and I just can't believe someone would think he can be unified without being Lineal. I mean I've heard every excuse in the book from Triple G fans about how Lineal Doesn't mean anything, basically anything to act like he don't need Canelo.

I agree that both Canelo and Golovkin will want to take that title off BJS, but I just personally don’t think BJS is ready for either guy personally. I get wanting to make Canelo vs Triple G for all the titles, but I still don’t think it would lessen anything of that fight with Saunders still out their hovering. But I do appreciate wanting to be WBO Champ before unifying. But I really think it’s because Triple G fans want to act like they already unified before fighting Canelo which is a fallacy because you can’t unify without being lineal. And honestly I really think if that were to happen it would make losing to Canelo hurt that much more. But either way, it should be a great year for boxing, I just hope in September we’re ready for a massive fight that makes us forget all about how crappy Floyd vs Pac was. I think Canelo vs Triple G can save boxing.

 

I skipped two pages after reading the first two pages. Bottom line the Canelo/ Cheesburger Jr fight will sell like crazy but I don't see no rematch because JR will be out of gas by round 5 and on the floor before the 9th

 

It is an obstacle to the fight. It's another obstacle for Golovkin to overcome. Saying it's an obstacle that could derail the fight is simply telling it like it is. Doesn't mean it will derail the fight, but it certainly could. But more importantly, it's the fact that there's even a rumor about it is what's annoying. It makes no sense why Golovkin or his team would even be considering a fight with Saunders now. If he gets Jacobs, OK then maybe I could see it be talked about. Having it a rumor leading into Jacobs, well I don’t know what to make of it. If there’s any truth to it, well they may be overlooking Mr. Jacobs. You gotta focus on the guy in front of you.

And in fairness, it wasn’t Canelo who delayed the fight for 15 months. Again, he had nothing to do with Cotto’s unwillingness to want to fight Golovkin. The idea that he should have been expected to fight Golovkin at the full 160 limit as his First defense of a title he just won in a new weight class is just completely absurd. Floyd Mayweather delayed the Pacquiao fight for damn near 6 years and we ended up with a big fat dud of a fight lol. And people still praise Floyd and act like he’s the best fighter ever. Canelo didn’t delay the fight at all. He wanted the fight, but he was completely disrespected and has shown a real desire to make this fight happen.

 

As Kiwiman said, K2 already denied the Saunders fight being done, stating that they have Jacobs to worry about. So no, they're not overlooking Jacobs. But they should still work for it behind the close doors given how hard It must be to get Saunders' ass to Kazakhistan.

And If GBP think that GGG fighting someone else is an obstacle, then they shouldn't have delayed the fight to Sept. 2017 in the first place.

Canelo wasn't expected to face GGG immediately after winnig the title as first defence, hence he was granted a voluntary per WBC. He could've used that as an opportunity to test himself at 160 by fighting someone like Lemieux. But instead, he(or his management) chose to use it as a money grab and fougt Khan. After the Khan fight,(May 2016) Canelo said he'd fight GGG anytime, only to vacate his title a week later and specificly stating that weight wasn't the issue, the we heard Oscar saying that the fight would make sense more for the fall of 2017. So indeed, either Canelo or his team, they delayed the fight for over a year.

 

If Golovkin has to get jerked around like a marionette just to make the Canelo fight then no. Canelo already proved that he didn't want the fight once before. GGG has NO guarantee that Sept 2017 with Canelo will ever happen. If the fight happens, it happens. Sometimes you just have to be zen about things.

Shannon Briggs , that ATG monster, was once lineal champion. It has really meant a lot, in the scheme of things

*SIGH*

Canelo is mandatory to Saunders.
If GGG beats Saunders, Canelo will be mandatory to GGG.
Ergo, Golovkin must fight Canelo or vacate.

Canelo wants Saunders' belt so that he can call himself a champion at 160 and never fight Golovkin.

 

It means "the guy that beat the guy who was champion". Nothing more or less.

It's nice to have but not essential. A belt could be passed along by a string of garbage guys one to the other while in the division there's a beast ruling with an iron fist. It's clear that the lineal title in that circumstance is meaningless.

Canelo needs Golovkin. If Golovkin beats Saunders, then he has fallen straight into Canelo's trap and will have to defend against him as his MANDATORY.

Nobody cares about a "lineal" title that was won by a midget off of a cripple, and vacated by a coward.

 

Yeah, you said 15 months. Now you're saying over a year. But you're also saying he wasn't expected to face Triple G immediately after winning the title. Good, but that still doesn't add up. The Canelo vs Cotto was 15 months ago. Canelo vs Khan was last May, that's 10 months ago. So by the standards that you've just outlined, that would be a delay of 10 months, or less than a year, not more than a year. It seems that you are counting the time between now and September as part of the delay. So what you're saying is even if the fight gets signed in May for September, the time between May and September would still be part of the delay that Canelo caused? Even though Oscar said Fall 2017, that's Canelo's fault too? Got it. And of course Golovkin's completely blameless in all this, even if he or his fans don't think they need to fight Canelo because he doesn't have a belt, that still would be Canelo delaying the fight.