He retired because he wanted to. Its his right. Had he not he would have beaten more guys you wouldn't give him any credit for beating anyway. Yeah i know what you were trying to do there. Dont try to downplay it now. We know damn well you said pbf ducked Williams back then but didn't hold any other fighters accountable. You're not fooling anyone here.
OMG you seriously need to learn how to read.... i SAID twice now Floyd wasn't the only one wanted to avoid Paul. Are you a ****ing illiterate or something? WTF are you talking about... don't hold WHO accountable? Do you just say **** that sounds good in your head or something?
You said pbf wouldn't have fought him in this thread and back in the day claimed pbf was ducking williams but never called out guys like oscar cotto mosley clottey or pac who didnt fight him either. We all know your agenda here and then lance stop with this ****.
Nobody wanted to fight Williams because his workrate and chin. He wasn't the most skilled fighter and you could beat him. But he made you go through pain to get the win. Nobody really wants to fight a guy that is in your grill non stop for 12 rounds. Pressure fighters are known to have an extremely tough time getting fights because they dish out the most punishment. They also take the most punishment too.
Yes he could be outboxed as Quintana showed and was a sucker for counter punchers like martinez and lara which is why i thknk pbf would have beaten him. Guys like pac or cotto or clottey would have real problems with Williams. Pac due to his size and the fact he would fight Williams fight and cotto because he cant really handle pressure well. Clottey had stamina issues and wouldnt throw enough and would shell up.
Floyd would not have, you know that. Not like PW didn't try to get his attention. OMG...are you still this stupid Pimp? how many more times do I need to say Floyd was NOT thew only one? You're just repeating your same stuff now. Log off and stop being the biggest Floyd fanatic Drama queen. You don't even have a horse in boxing any more since the one guy you supported retired. Join him please....
Floyd doesnt like to be pressured either. Nobody likes it unless you punch like Hearns or Foreman. Maybe Floyd wins. But one thing I know for certain. He wanted nothing to do with a Williams fight because nobody wants to deal with that type of pressure and punishment.
Paul Williams was fighting at 147 - he held the WBO world welterweight title in 2007 and 2008, winning it from Margarito, another welterweight Floyd avoided. Instead of fighting a welterweight at 147, Floyde made Hatton move up from 140 in 2007. Then because he feared all the good fighters at 147, Floyd retired for a couple of years.
Right. I wonder why you didn't mention the two decision losses to Leija that happened before and directly after the Hernandez fight, as well. As I stated in my original post, that's the caliber Nelson was at that age, and it was a clear step down from his best. That happens when you're a 38 year old 130 pounder whose fought legends like Sanchez and Fenech, no matter how you try and twist it.
Ricky hatton was a undefeated top 10 p4p fighter you ****ing idiot. Are you new to boxing? That fight was huge and had to happen since pbf moved to 140. Pbf tried fighting hatton there after he beat gatti and hatton beat tszyu but was turned down by hatton saying he wasnt ready so he moved up to chase zab. Hatton beat jlc taunted and called out pbf jackass. If he didnt fight him he'd be another guy you'd claim he ducked. I don't see you saying why didnt oscar pac Mosley cotto or clottey fight Williams? Why is that? Why is it up to pbf to fight everyone but the same isnt asked of them?
How do you know he wanted nothing to do with Williams. Did Williams make an offer for a fight? The truth is Williams was never really in a position to fight pbf. He lost the belt quickly after beating margo then moved up. The truth is he should have stayed at 147 it's not like he was having trouble making weight. He eventually would have gotten cotto Mosley pbf oscar or pac in the ring.
All the while, you fanatics would say Floyd could make 140. But instead of taking the linear 140 champ, one that he could add to his list of linear titles, the legacy you fanatic tout so much, he took a guy who looked like crap in his one fight at 147 and fought him there. And there you go again.... "I didn't see you....." WTF.... are you supposed to see and remember EVERYTHING on this board pimp? You're head is so far up floyd ass you know what his farts smell like before he does....
How do you know pbf wouldnt fight him? Where was the contract offer? Or are you just making stuff up just to be heard and further your hate filled agenda??? Quintana showed you how to beat Williams by boxing him and pbf is better than him in every department use that blueprint and improve on it. Which he could have done.
You know he wouldn't. Floyd took off to let everyone at WW fight instead of fighting them himself. He was scared of Margarito, no way he'd fight the guy who beat him!
Pbf already tried fighting hatton at 140 when they were both there but was turned down. Why in the hell would he move down to fight hatton when he was lineal at 147? He was p4p #1 and the a-side. Even still hatton called him out and he won a belt at 147. Hatton said going up in weight would be better for him because he wouldn't have to spend as much time in camp worrying about making weight and that pbf wasnt a big guy anyway. Hatton made mo excuses about fighting pbf at 147 I'm trying to figure out why you're? You claimed he ducked williams when was the contract offered troll? You cant duck anyone if they never make an offer. pbf was on top it wasnt his job to challenge boxers and be the challenger he was the champion they wanted to take what he had not the other way around.