Gene Fullmer vs Jake LaMotta

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  1. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who takes it between these two iron chinned, not so hard hitting middleweights prime vs prime?
     
  2. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LaMotta is stronger and tougher I think, and would force Fullmer on the backfoot as usual when Fullmer faced a man equally strong and determined as himself (see Basilio, Lausse, Tiger fights). I'm impressed by Fullmer's performance against Basilio, but LaMotta was bigger than Basilio, bigger than Fullmer in fact though not notably so. I think LaMotta's just the better technical fighter in the type of a brawl that this fight would end up being. Fullmer's cross-arm defense worked well for him, but he was still a rather stationary target compared to the bobbing & weaving LaMotta while not running around the ring, and his often wild unorthodox punches would be met with LaMotta's sharper punching, especially the double jabs and left hooks to the body and head.
     
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  3. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LaMotta was easily as tough as Gene Fullmer, and had much better boxing skills...Jake by a wide decision...
     
  4. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fullmer stronger, Jake better boxer
     
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  5. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know about that.
     
  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't know about that "Jake better boxer"....
     
  7. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    have a look at his later fights when he was fighting at light heavy.
    he had a lot of guile.
    lamotta would decision fullmer, he has a better chin and is a far better boxer
     
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  8. Boxed Ears

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    I'm not dead sure about the winner but I'd think the safest bet would be LaMotta by decision. The odds of either guy scoring a knockout...heh. And as far as who is definitively stronger or has a definitively better ring IQ, I wouldn't be that certain about it based on what I've seen of them.
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Jake by dec ,but Fullmer's awkward "style", makes it closer than many predict,imo.
     
  10. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    do you think fullmer would make the fight a stinker too ??
     
  11. Boxed Ears

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    ...Felt the need to put "style" in quotation marks, ey? :think
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes ,at some point ,I beleive Fullmer would change up to the way he fought Tiger in their second encounter ,and box ,trying to keep some distance between Jake and himself. Against Tiger , Fullmer sneaked a draw with this strategy, and after realising Lamotta is able to match him in -side,and is faster of hand I think this is probably what he would do.
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I am not a Fullmer fan, for me, he excelled at no one particular thing ,but he was undeniably effective,ie he maximised what he had.
     
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  14. Korean Hawk

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    I think Fullmer actually gets sold a bit short as just a mauling, spoiling sort of slugger. The way he beat Robinson was by getting off first with his own jab, knocking SRR off-balance, and then burrowing inside with his inside mauls. It was a very clever plan and it worked a treat.

    In this bout I think Fullmer has the better jab and could for stretches keep Lamotta off-balance with it as Lamotta tries to come forward, and then on the inside Fullmer's spoiling attack could make it very hard for Lamotta to do any clean work.
     
  15. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fullmer was undeniably a mauling and spoiling slugger though. Whether he came in behind the jab or not, his objective was clear, to make it as rough and ugly a fight as possible.

    In my opinion LaMotta had the faster, better and more consistent jab. Fullmer was more straight-up, a solid guard, and had better footwork. A prime LaMotta (mid 40's) would have been hell for an old Robinson and certainly wouldn't ever have been taken out with one punch.

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