Gene Fullmer

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  1. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't see Gene get mentioned on here very often, in threads or match-ups. He tallied 3 points and the 29th position in the middle weight rankings done here about a year and a half ago.

    What are your thoughts on Gene Fullmer???
    Where do you rank him among the MW's???
    How does he fare H2H (or who are the best you would favor him against???)
    How would he do against the current MW division???
     
    PhillyPhan69, Jan 31, 2011
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  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Quintessential 50's/60's tough guy...underrated fighter who had an awkward cleverness to augmment his natural toughness. One of the strongest fighters ever...and it was so ironic that he had to occupy the same era...and have to fight that arch-strong man Dick Tiger..what bad luck...like the bad luck of taking that unreal left hook from Robinson.
     
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  3. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    Overrated based on being protected out west whenever he fought. Several of his fights that were wins or draws could have easily been (or should have been) losses.
     
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  4. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Yes, i think Fullmer was a bit of an overachiever...he wasn't really any more talented than someone like Steve Collins(That's not really a knock per se though) and as Klomp says had a relative hometown edge at times.

    Good fighter who carved out a very notable career for himself
     
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  5. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was with Gene Fullmer at press conferences. Thought he should be in BELIEVE IT OR NOT. No living human could be massive as he was 'n be 160 pounds.
     
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  6. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i dont know much about him, but did read somewhere that at least one opponent thought he was a dirty fighter but could not take back
     
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  7. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Specifically which wins or draws should have been losses for Fullmer in your opinion?

    I'd like to see your scorecards for these fights if possible.
     
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  8. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He looked 'n fought like a mugger, MB, but surprised the world making like Nijinsky against Basilio.
     
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  9. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    just found what i had read it was a quote from joey giardello

    i remember gene fullmer was one of the dirtiest fighters around .when you played dirty back a little dirty with him he cried to the referee.

    i dont think giardello was happy with the result
     
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  10. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gene was a tough hombre and would give any middle weight of any era fits.
     
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  11. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fullmer was a TOUGH SOB...he'd give any middle hell...and he usually did...
     
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  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, I've seen pictures of him...like in the Basilio fights, and I think..."man...the guy is huge"(!) He looks so big and strong compared to most of his opponents...makes me marvel at Dick Tiger being able to manhandle him like he did.
     
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  13. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fullmer like most swarmers did not have a career that was conducive to longevity, and he had fought 58 fights over a 10 year carear prior to fighting Tiger. And Fullmer did fairly well in the 2nd of their 3 fights earning a draw (in a difficult to score fight), unfortunately I don't have a copy of the first fight to comment on with any serious insight. Tiger on the other hand was a young 22 and entering his prime years.

    Do you think Tiger is better or that much better than Fullmer??? Fullmer already held wins over Greaves and Webb, both of whom held wins over Tiger. Was Tiger a bad style match-up for Fullmer, did he catch him at just the right time in their respective careers or was he just a little bit better????

    How would a prime Fullmer stack up with Dick Tiger????
     
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  14. Boucher

    Boucher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    One taste of Lausse was enough for him.
     
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  15. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Strong and slow, and a friggin hard-head.
    Built like a small nose-tackle.
    Mostly an arm-puncher, with below-average power at best.

    But, the guy was always in condition. And always gave it 100%.

    Kind of like Vito A.
     
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