Gene Tunney vs. Archie Moore both at their peaks?

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  1. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    This would be an amazing fight. I really can't choose a favorite, but would give the slightest edge to Moore, he had the better defense but Tunney had the speed, great skills himself and power to get to the Mongoose. Tunney was probally a tad bit more durable too even though Arch was more cagey. Your thoughts?
     
  2. Bo Bo Olson

    Bo Bo Olson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Toss up, Tunney, Charles and Moore...Becasue Cahrles beat Moore three times...I think Tunney would have beaten my man moore...Charles and him would have been even better.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I like Tunney by dec,he is faster and more mobile,Moore would be pressing Tunney throwing out that short jab using the ring,and if Moore corners the Marine Tunney had a top chin,I pick Tunney to scrape by Charles ,so I must go with him to beat the Mongoose.
     
  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I think the fight to look at here is Charels vs Moore. CHalres was not as durable or as mobile as Tunney was, and he beat Moore 3-0 in the series.

    I think Tunney would defeat Moore on points, but its far from an easy fight for Tunney.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think I'm going to pick Moore here as just beyond Tunney's masterful analysis. Moore's harder punching slows Tunney down to a crawl down the back straight and Archie takes the slenderest of decisions.
     
  6. Maxmomer

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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Charles was a better puncher than Tunny though, wouldn't you agree?
     
  8. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    A toss up, this one: I'll go with Moore- by close fought decision.
     
  9. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tunney out boxes Moore and uses his Feet to good effect not to get cornered.Tunney by comfortable decision,but a tough fight for Gene.
     
  10. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tunney is one of the most underrated fighters in history, who could fight on the front or back foot and would be far too versatile for Archie to outpoint and far too sturdy to be stopped. The man was only defeated once (Greb I, officially) and dropped once (the long count), I'd personally go with Tunney UD, and going away
     
  11. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I gonna go with Moore via decision.
     
  12. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A young Cassius Clay complimented Tunney some. Their boxing styles and pre-fight opponent analyses are similar.
     
  13. radianttwilight

    radianttwilight Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tunney by UD, if we're talking heavyweight.

    Any other weight is still Tunney by UD, I'm just not quite as sure.

    IMO The Mongoose is a poor H2H choice against ATGs. He had impressive longevity, sure, and the KO record...but his record against ATGs leaves something to be desired, to say the least.

    His resume is impressive but his primary attribute in most matchups would be his cageyness, and the "wily veteran" ploy can only get him so far.

    Tunney wouldn't fall for it.
     
  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    History and a close look at both men's records would suggest that Tunney actually had the better defense. How many times was Moore ko'd, and decked in his career? How many times was Tunney? If Tunney was capable of rising to the occasion of defeating the great Jack Dempsey, not once, but twice, I think he could have defeated Archie Moore as well. Archie was very cagey, but he wouldnt have been that effective against a highly orthodox, discipline classic boxer like Tunney, who continues to be the most persistanly underrated, overlooked great fighter of all time. Tunney would have won a decision over Archie, but there exists the possibility that he would have worn down, or maybe even ko'd the Mongoose with those hard, accurate right hands. One things for sure, Gene wouln't have deserted his game plan and wildly gone after Archie for a ko. He would have been very wary of Moore's old tricks, and like I said, would have remained disciplined and outboxed his man.
     
  15. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wonderful matchup, but I give a slight edge to Gene by decision because of his amazing footwork and consistent quick punches, but Moore had some cagey (albeit flatfooted) defense himself, and much better punching power.