gene tunney vs max schmeling

Tunney UD. Schmeling was a master boxer with a great counter right hand, but Tunney´s chin was good enough to survive those shots, and he was tricky, mobile, etc., 9-5-1

 

Schmeling's greatest nite was when he beat the young Joe Louis who was flawed.

Tunney would have been at the top of his game, and very experienced, plus had beaten Dempsey twice.

Tunney by UD.

 

You got to realise, that Tunney had been thumbed in the eye before the second Dempsey fight and had a blind spot that never left. Which is why after stealing Richarcards money, for the Heeney fight, he retired.
He said he never saw Dempsy's punch because of the blind spot.

Schmelling would know about the blind spot, being the first to do slow motion filming of a fight....he had a special process done to do so for the First Louis fight.

I favor Tunney with out the blind spot by UD.

Schmelling was 19 before he ever laced on a glove. He'd seen a jack Dempsy fight and decided to go for it. He had a good job being a trained publisher. In Germany all trades are trained.

 

Max was a heavy counterpuncher ,but I wouldnt call him a boxing master Sharkey beat him and was winning their first fight rather handily before fouling out,Tunney had all Sharkey's skills with the addition of a magnificent cool boxing brain ,something that Sharkey definitely didnt have,Tunney by U DEC

 

I agree. Sharkey was a head case, and Schmeling had his hands full with him. Gene Tunney, on the other hand, was superior to Sharkey, and had far superior discipline and wasn't hotheaded. Tunney would coolly outbox Max all night, just like he did Dempsey, particularly like he did the first time. As much as I like and respect Schmeling, Gene Tunney was a class above him and would win a lopsided decision, while dishing out heavy punishment with his own right hand.

 

I'd like to say that I'm not selling Max Schmeling short here, as I think he's one of the most screwed over heavyweight champions ever, in my opinion. The Nazi thing, the winning the title on a foul, the blitzing by Louis in their rematch, which again, implied that Nazi label for Max. He was a very good all aound fighter, by that I mean, he had a tactical, smart mind, and used that great right hand of his cleverly, as a fast and accurate counter blow, and of course it had power too. Having said that, I still maintain that Gene Tunney is even MORE screwed over and underrated than even Schmeling. If you read old time accounts of boxing, from the late 20's up to the 50's, and 60's, you get the impression that it was held against him that he beat Jack Dempsey, and the term forever used in describing Tunney has been "colorless", as though personality, and a swashbuckling, exciting, swaggering type of personality is a prerequisite for being judged a great fighter. The scientific, cold and calculating nature of his boxing style has been held against him, much like a guy who, though, not identical to Tunney exactly in style, but cold and calculating nonetheless, Carlos Monzon. The fans and experts who like dramatic, exciting types of fighters, as opposed to those who are just damned effective, seem to impose their bias in judging the greats of the past. In a matchup between Tunney and Schmeling, as I've said, Tunney would be a decisive winner over another very good underrated fighter.

 

Tunney, by UD. Luigi's analysis is just about spot on.

 

Good Post!

 

Of course when it actualy took place, Tunney would be geting a bit lazy, and Schmeling would be the unknown up and coming destroyer.

 

The Tunney from the Dempsey fights against the Schmeling who beat Louis in their first fight. Would you make either a clear fave? Do you think Schmeling has the power to stop Tunney? etc

 

Schmeling Unanimous Decision- Schmeling was the better boxer and harder puncher, and one dimensional tunney would not be able to control schmeling from the outside.

 

I think it would be a close UD, Tunney taking most of the early-mid rounds. I think Schmeling would come on strong late fight but Gene holds out to take the verdict. I've no doubt Schmeling carries more than his fair share of power but I don't think he'd quite be able to close the show here: Tunneys chin is solid and his recuperative powers very good.

 

Tunney one dimensional? Surely you jest. :huh

 

Gene Tunney retired with 3 young stud hall of fame heavyweights in the division. He'd rather use his last fight up on D level fat tom heeney, rather than a Real A level heavyweight like jack sharkey and george godfrey who were rated higher than tom heeney. The little baby title eliminater tourney in 1928 was one of the most corrupt tourneys ever held and didnt accept black heavyweights in it. Heeney was a joke, tunney knew it and gave him a shot. He wanted no part of Sharkey, Godfrey