If this is a 10 round fight... Maybe Tunney could run enough to win. If this is 12 or 15, I wouldn't bet on it, and I think Tunney gets brutalized in the process
Well Tunney had all the trouble he could handle against an admittedly unique swarmer in Greb who was no more than a Super Middleweight. How would he handle the intense, incessant and unrelenting pressure that Marciano would subject him to, bearing in mind also that Rocky was the best part of a couple of stone heavier, stronger and hit infinitely harder than Greb.
Yes point taken Mac, and also Tunney was always in shape. I just wonder what particular style gave him problems, Greb’s obviously did, but there again Greb was a one off. The general point I was making was that although Marciano wasn’t exactly a swarmer in the Greb mould (who was!) was Tunney averse to the intense high pressure type of opponent that Rocky was? There again he only lost once so whatever was put in front of him he obviously found a way!
Turpin was probably the strongest middleweight ever from Britain. By all accounts he hit freakishly hard even at light heavy.
I don't think Marciano gets beaten by any fighter around his weight with the exception of maybe Dempsey due to the fast-slow starting discrepancy.
C'mon people !! The Rock is going to be right there in front of Tunney and he is going to land!! And when he does that Power is going to send Gene on the canvas same as Prime Dempsey would do!! Just going to take a lil longer with Rock but it is going to happen... I see this as a bad 12 -15 round match up for the Fighting Marine
That's where your wrong , Ali is very relevant to the thread BC he moved around the ring just as much as Tunney but had better fire power coming back. Marciano also did a computer fight with Ali and he got a pretty good ideas how hard Ali would have actually been in the ring with.... However Ali liked Marciano's chances to win more than anyone up until that point just based on those sparring sessions . Marciano stops Tunney late. Nothing hard to hit if a grinder grinds you down while hopping around like a bunny with your hands down chest level. Moore and co. aren't even being talked about here....BC its about Tunney isn't it? Lol
Turpin scaled 162.5lbs when he ko'd the 174.25lbs C*ckell,my point being ,the Marciano fight notwithstanding,C*ckell wasn't a testament to durability!
You get a line on how Marciano would do against a prime Tunney because of how he shaped in a, pulled punches scripted computer fight with a retired Ali? How ridiculous are you! As I pointed out you are basing your opinion of Tunney on his fights with Dempsey. Tunney was quite capable of fighting in the trenches he didn't "hop like a bunny ,"as you suggest.He ws an excellent counterpuncher and threw a fast and accurate straight ring hand. Strange that Tunney would not be hard for Marciano to hit, yet faster more skilled men found it hard to do so? Apart from Dempsey ,who even knocked him down? Past prime Charles went a competitive 15rds with Marciano,and he fought him toe to toe at times. Why couldn't the fleeter, faster Tunney have equal success? There is no primary sourced quote that Ali said Marciano would have been his hardest fight.Ali contradicted himself all the time on this subject. Marciano imo, would actually have been an easier fight than several others including Dempsey,Louis,Johnson, Frazier,Walcott,,and later,Lewis,Bowe,Holyfield,Tyson,Wlad.He was slow afoot and into range ,short armed, and a bleeder. This content is protected
