Genna will have a hard time to fight a good name even if he grabs that WBC belt

Quillin? lol.

Resumes don't get into the ring anyway; fighters do. Jacobs would get Pirog'd all over again. If you disagree, please tell me how Jacobs wins other than "Well, if we look at his opponents on Boxrec"

 

Quillin is better than anyone on Bumlovkin's resume.

I find it most odd how you Bumlovkinites go from one extreme to the other. Before the Jacobs fight, you Bumlovkinites were accusing Qullin of ducking Bumlovkin. Now that Jacobs has KO'ed Quillin, you Bumlovkinites want to dismiss him - when Quillin would have EASILY been the best name on Bumlovkin's resume had they fought. And you Bumlovkinites would have constantly reminded us of such..

Don't look now but your hypocisy is showing...

Lately, Jacobs has looked more impressive against a higher level of opposition...

 

You talked about super welters, yet can only come up with Lara.

Lara had all he could handle, and then some with Angulo then Canelo, two cement feet fighters, who still managed to knockdown him hard twice (Angulo), and dissuaded him from standing his ground (Canelo).

What's going to happen against a mobile pressure fighter cutting off the ring, granite-chinned and punching with precision, leverage and timing ?

The fight will be as good as over once Lara cannot run anymore; and we both know HE WILL RUN for as long as his legs allow him.

It thus says something when Gennady's only real challenges come from a higher division: Bute and Andre Dirrell won't last very long; Anthony Dirrell might have some good moments, but his stamina will let him down after the first half; Jack is just an OK fighter who doesn't do anything especially well.

Degale is the best super middle at the moment; i see him the most susceptible to trouble Gennady (who's still going to be a 3 to 1 fav on fight night)

In any case, GGG will stay at middle for the next 3 years at least, so...

 

How, just HOW will Gennady get the WBC Lineal Middleweight Championship of the World Title from Amir Khan?

 

Won't happen.

Khan can win 10 of the 12 rds he will still lose a split.

Mexico cooking the finest in the world !

:hey

 

If you're going to accuse me of doing that then I suggest you find evidence I've said it.

Quillin isn't a bum, I've never once said that. But he isn't that good, just a guy who drew with Andy lee. I'd back Lemieux to beat Quillin personally.

Like I said, all you ever go on about is resume and not about the actual technique or ability of a fighter. Time and time again on this forum you get shown to know very little, surprised you keep coming back

 

Even a person of limited intellect can shake a can filled with beans and make a noise.

 

I favor GGG over all SWs. But, Lara and Canelo give him some trouble. Lara because, he can land, can punch, is accurate, and can get to different spots in the ring quickly. GGG will likely catch him eventually. But, he will lose more rounds than we are accustomed to seeing him lose. Canelo's head and waist movement, fast, strong combinations and counterpunching will give GGG a bit of puzzle, until he figures out the timing. Canelo has a great chin too. And if the fight is in Vegas or Texas, Canelo gets the benefit of the doubt in close rounds.

I'm not sure how much it says to have only real challenges outside your division. Everyone knows MW is one of the weakest divisions in boxing. If it were talent rich, that would be a different story. Staying another 3 years is just collecting titles and waiting for smaller guys to move up. It's not challenging yourself or trying to be great. But, maybe that's what greatness is to some of you...

 

You are VERY wrong. I talk about technique and ability all the time. Bumlovkin's defensive techniques amaze me. Especially his propensity to block punches with his face. Simply amazing. And lets not forget the effenciency with which he knocks over TOMATO CANs. Astounding...

 

Quillin may not be very good but he has a better resume than *anyone* Bumlovkin has beaten - and that includes Lemieux...

 

Lemieux and Geale? Dude...

If GGG retired now do you really think he's anywhere near Tyson?

 

What did Popkins at middle ?
Which great true middle did he beat ?

Glen Johnson is his best oponnent.
Did he look for greater challenges in higher weights ?

No: he feisted on super welters and average middle contenders for years.
It's only when Taylor dethroned him he moved up by NECESSITY, not any other reason.

Once Gennady is undisputed, who's he going to move up against that would make it worthwhile ?

There are no stars at super middle: in 2 years all super middle belts might change hands, for all i know.

 

Tyson was a bully who crumbled each time he met a good/great fighter who stood up to him.

It's about time Tyson fans realize that.

When he beat Holmes, Holmes had been retired for nearly 2 years and was coming out purely because he needed money. He was nowhere in condition to fight for the title, nor did he deserve it.

How does that compare with Geale or Lemieux, 2 champions in their absolute primes, top of their divisions and at their peak when Gennady went through them like a knife through butter, i'll never know.

:-(

Should Gennady beat Kovalev and Ward, 2 excellent champions, he would already have a better resume than Tyson.

 

Haha...come on man. The guy fought a phenom in Roy Jones (who will go down as an ATG) and lost. Did he run from MW then? NO. He went on a historic run and defeated Glen Johnson, prime or near prime Trinidad, and ODLH. And he was almost 40 at the time. He lost 2 close fights to Jermaine Taylor (who was VERY good and his prime at MW) at the end of his run. He passed the torch and moved on. Hopkins was 40 years old.

AT 40...he moved up THREE divisions and took Tarver's titles who was coming off big wins over RJJ and Glen Johnson. Then he moved down and met Pavlik and Winky at 170 c/w. He lost a close fight to Calzaghe...another great fighter. Then he beat on old Jones in the rematch.

After that he continued to fight the top guys at LHW. He went to CANADA and got a draw against Pascal...coming back from 2 KDs. Then he went back to Canada and outboxed him. He couldn't do much with "Bad Chad" who was the man at the time and was coming with a vengeance. Couple of more wins after that Sergey beats him up. No shame in that. He was 50 years old.

That is a legendary career sir.

GGG has a LONG way to go, to even be compared. And he doesn't have Jones Jr, Glen Johnson and James Toney in his division either.

I doubt if we see GGG competing at 50 against the cream of the crop in his division or any for that matter. He will have a good run at MW. We will have to see about the rest.

 

Ability of a fighter is everything to do with resume, the two are inextricably linked. Hardcore GGG fans tend to ignore this.