Gennadiy Gennadyevich Golovkin vs. Ryōta Murata & Shuichiro Yoshino vs. Masayuki Ito RBR.

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  1. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was an internet thing between bored incels. Most people in the real world had never heard of the andre controversy because there wasn’t one. Andre wanted to get his name more relevant that’s why he wouldn’t stop yapping about GGG
     
  2. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    Where did you think I was talking about? The office water cooler or boxing forums (y'know, where people who follow the sport congregrate to talk about, uh, boxing)?


    Well, there actually was some degree of controversy involving Gennady Golovkin and Andre Ward. It was documented in the sports media in 2015 or so.


    And here we have an inversion of reality. Literally the opposite is true. When K2 were building Golovkin's brand in the early days of his HBO residency, while Ward was on hiatus, they used Andre's name (as well as Mayweather's) to amp up hype and interest around Golovkin. GGGuys may be loathe to acknowledge it, but Ward was a name worth using for Golovkin back then.

    When Ward returned, he offered the fight, was refused, moved on, fought Kovalev twice, retired.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Finally watched the fight. Observations: GGG is old. His feet aren't light any more. He needs to reset and gather more. He needs breaks between offensive surges but his feet can't buy him the time necessary to do this against an elite opponent. He seemed winded in the early going but warmed up to the task.

    And I would stop the Clanelo talk cuz GGG looks J A C K E D.
     
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  4. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    Shhhhh. You're not supposed to mention this. Golovkin is pure as driven snow, is noble warrior who always sought the path of utmost resistance, is not businessman (even though we get to talk about his millions like we get a cut), would obviously never use a drug to enhance his performance given that he's criticized another fighter for having done so, goodboy hehehe.
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He looks like a freakin' superhero in the upper body. Whatever, I don't really care. He's a great fighter.
     
  6. tealt

    tealt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not sure where you are getting this was some megga fight. Tom loefler said the economics didn't add up. Altleast brook brought a fan base. Ward was high risk low reward. Great fighter probably beats GGG.
     
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    Tom Loeffler is full of merda and always was. Just another slimy promotional company spin doctor.

    I should know about Kell Brook, having followed the guy's career long enough to remember when he boxed out of Coldwell's place for a stint. You're talking as if he was a household name in Britain. Rather, he was a local attraction with national recognition (you didn't know that Ward put a similar number of asses in seats at the Oracle Center as Brook put in seats at Sheffield Arena?) — he wasn't a PPV star so much as a guy Sky Sports were looking to put on PPV in a promotable matchup in the hope that he would break out and become a PPV star, which is what the Golovkin and Spence events were in aid of (that breakout moment ultimately never came for Brook, because he got the wrong fight altogether in middleweight Golovkin and a good fight at a not so apt time in Spence). That's the UK, not the US. In the US, Brook had much less TV exposure than Ward. In the US, Golovkin-Brook was never a PPV fight — more than a year after Golovkin was offered a bout with Ward, the Golovkin-Brook fight appeared on a regular HBO afternoon/early evening telecast. You realise that a prestige PPV event involving an American fighter and a KO artist stands to generate much more revenue for an American premium cable network like HBO than a regular subscription afternoon/early evening slot involving a British fighter who'd previously had very limited main event exposure to the US TV audience, right? That would've been reflected in Golovkin's purse. If Ward-Kovalev went on PPV twice, you better believe Ward-Golovkin would've been PPV with a bullet, would've been promoted heavily, would certainly have exceeded the numbers Golovkin went on to do with Jacobs.

    'Mega-fight' is your choice of words. What I'm saying is that it would have 1. significantly exceeded the buyrate Golovkin-Jacobs went on to achieve, 2. easily represented Golovkin's biggest payday up to that point. If you want to call that a mega-fight, I guess it's a mega-fight.


    Now you've gotten halfway to the crux of the matter, even if you're not being completely honest.

    Ward-Golovkin would've significantly exceeded the buyrate Golovkin-Jacobs went on to achieve and would've easily represented Golovkin's biggest payday up to that point, which is plenty of reward for a guy supposedly crying out for an opportunity to compete in significant bouts.

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    Team Golovkin were not at all confident of their guy's chances in that fight, even after having previously declared that they'd go up or down a division for significant challenges and having identified Ward as one such challenge while the Oaklander was sidelined.

    That's why they flatly declined with no attempt at further negotiation and stayed at middleweight, well the hell out of Ward's way, They well knew that Andre was very apt to upset their apple cart, so all the big talk of a couple years prior was quickly forgotten and he was given the brush-off.

    That's all there is to it.
     
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  8. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You never know how a fight will go

    GGG looked done last night at the end of the 3rd, then went on to dominate.
     
  9. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Clenelo is due for a loss and Bivol is good enough to do it.

    GGG still has fights on his deal, he will milk them if he don’t get the Clenelo fight. He’s a warrior and you can tell he loves this game.
     
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  10. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No you GTFOH..Oh you have, red suits you....You Know Karma is relentless you snitch....

    I'm sure the Mods can do thhir work without petboy snitch sayin Sir, Sir SIR it was him, your true character or lack of it, has leaked through..BYe & good riddance...
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    Lmao
     
  12. vargasfan1985

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    Well, he was right about one of those. Bivol sonned Clenelo.
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    But then after Canelo beat Golovkin he changed his mind and said he'd knock out Bivol in his easiest fight ever.
     
  14. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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