Gennady Gennadyevich Golovkin vs. Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam: do we still want it? More than ever perhaps?

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Who is up for this?

  1. I wouldn't mind this match-up, have always felt that way.

    29.7%
  2. I used to want it but now I don't care.

    24.3%
  3. I would love this match-up, have always felt that way.

    10.8%
  4. I have warmed up to it and think now is the right time for it.

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  5. I didn't actually have either of them on my radar when they were "rivals" but want it now.

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  6. Golovkin on points

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  7. Golovkin by stoppage

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  8. Draw

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  9. N'Dam N'Jikam on points

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  10. N'Dam N'Jikam by stoppage

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    A clash between GGG and HNN seemed absolutely inevitable for a time, with the anticipation nearing its peak roughly a decade ago. Both were undefeated pros showing dominant form ever since their debuts, and had been stellar amateurs - the Cameroonian-Frenchman with a solid record of 77-4-3 going along with a very respectable international trophy shelf, but obviously paling in comparison to Golovkin's mythical 345-8. The harder-hitting Kazakhstani was always viewed as the bigger prospect but they were both projected by the majority of experts and middleweight scene hobbyists to cut a swath to championship gold and enlist in a lengthy, fan-friendly unification rivalry, as HNN was seen as having the style and boundless athleticism to disrupt GGG's more conventional approach steeped in the fundamentals.

    It seemed all the more inevitable when they each held a piece of the WBA title pie from 2010 until 2011, with Golovkin as the regular and N'Dam N'Jikam as the interim champion. It was hoped they would meet to solidify not just the WBA title picture but the heir apparent to its previous wearer, Felix Sturm, as the new era's preeminent 160lber.

    Needless to say, alas, fate had other ideas. Golovkin did indeed establish himself as the successor to Sturm (in fact well surpassing his legacy) but their paths never crossed. Golovkin's stock and worldwide profile rose steadily, thanks in large part to his partnership with Abel Sánchez and becoming HBO's darling...while the road became rockier with each passing year for El Fenomeno, presaged by a close scrape with Avtandil Khurtsidze. In his gritty UD losses to Peter Quillin and David Lemieux he proved that his recuperative powers and heart were up to par with the legendary Dinamita Márquez, whose mantle of "ever able to rise off the canvas" he arguably inherited...but those losses also proved that neither his chin nor his ability quite matched the hype of circa 2009, when many of us tabbed him as potentially the #3 if not second best h2h young middleweight behind Golovkin and maybe Dmitry Pirog. He then furthered his downward spiral when he gambled on another shot at grabbing an Olympic medal after they listed the restrictions on pros competing. It didn't go well. He took a humiliating ass-kicking...from a Brazilian, no less! Topping it off he fought Ryōta Murata twice in a row - getting a questionable decision and then in the rematch suffering the first stoppage defeat of his career.

    So, you'd think by now a GGG vs. HNN match-up would have lost all luster, right? Well ..not so fast.

    Golovkin is aging visibly from one fight to another. He is only a year older than N'Dam N'Jikam but honestly seems a bit further removed from his prime in terms of reflexes and other attributes. He also has lost his aura of invincibility - no matter how one scored the Jacobs and Canelo fights, he is no longer the dominant force he once seemed. Murata was also just a terrible stylistic match-up for HNN, and is much younger than GGG, smack in his prime.

    Especially considering that GGG is now considering taking on the likes of Brandon Adams, does HNN seem like that unrealistic an option?
     
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  2. Gennady

    Gennady Well-Known Member booted Full Member

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    I want Golovkin vs Canelo/Jacobs/BJS/Andrade or Callum Smith. The rest is bull****
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    Oh come on. You'd really balk at him fighting HNN?
     
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    IDGAF what anyone says, I've wanted this for over a decade and think it now makes the most sense it has made since like 2012...and while I'd favor GGG it wouldn't be the one-sided beatdown it might have been a few years ago IMO. :nusenuse:
     
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  5. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    N dam is tough he's got alot of heart ..... He has alot of experience.... He will show us if GGG is still the same guy
     
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  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whats the problem its just a warmup comeback fight? why should a comeback warmup be world level?
     
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  7. Scratchlin

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    N'dam ducked him like almost everyone ducked him around that time. Golovkin had the middleweight division terrified.
     
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    Time has passed. Would have been a welcome alternative to willie Monroe or Dominic wade.

    Anyways , Jacobs , Canelo, Andrade is the lineup for him at MW. Could end his career taking out Callum .
     
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    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    or... N'Dam vs Khurtsidze 2
     
  10. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've always wanted it or more like begged for it. HNN had SO much potential, if he ever fulfilled it and Pirog stayed healthy that would have been a legendary triumvirate. I still know to my core it would be an absolute tear up, but I think GGG -- even at this stage in his decline, is still too much for HNN, like he always would have been. GGG stoppage around the 8th and winning most rounds but HNN going out on his sheild and leaving it all in the ring. I truly believe this would be a no **** balls out firefight throughout.
     
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  11. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    this is all that needs to be said on topic. Like post 10x.
     
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  12. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    The only thing we have to discuss in this matchup is how many times HNN will be knocked down before he loses a decision.

    5? 6?
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    And how many of the rounds he doesn't get dropped in will he win? I say 3-4.
     
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    pistal47 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I hope this isn't a sleight towards HNN. The man is a STONE COLD WARRIOR, which he has proven 100 times over.

    FTR -- HNN was a highly regarded amateur -- on the international scene. I have a friend that fought him in the amateurs and lost by stoppage via mercy rule, he was just getting outpointed and clowned so bad it was stopped. Not an AB loss, a literal mercy rule RSC, and this friend was a good amateur in his own right. He said flat out HNN was just too fast and athletic for him, my buddy literally had NOTHING for him. In his first go around at the Olympics he even beat Andy Lee on countback. He was a serious scalp for anyone who could beat him.
     
  15. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Nope, not a sleight to him, he's just not an elite lvl fighter and GGG still has way enough in the tank to drop him many times in the fight and possibly even stop him.

    HNN is the dictionary definition of a warrior though.

    He's a good solid fighter but he's just not at that lvl. Don't you remember when Lemieux did to him a few years back?

    I think Lemieux must have dropped him 6 times in that fight. The Quillin fight too, I think he was down 5-6 times that fight as well.
     
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