Gennady "GGG" Golovkin: setting the record straight on several matters.

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  1. Vigilance777

    Vigilance777 Active Member Full Member

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    Yet another quality post from IB.
    Good read. Would read again.
     
  2. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Amazing post, fantastic ****ysis. Didn't know an awful lot about some of the past opponents myself either so this was very useful
     
  3. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He boxed a bit on the back foot against Rosado IMAO and he did quite well.
     
  4. Adil

    Adil Active Member Full Member

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    Applying pressure or fighting passively is a disposition, it's your natural instincts, it's your character, it's whatever you are comfortable doing. This has nothing to do with being classified as a boxer or not a boxer. You can be an aggressive or a passive boxer depending on your character.

    To throw more punches means to outbox, don't you agree? Outboxing - landing more punches than your opponent, hit and get hit less. Boxing doesn't mean DON'T get hit.
    Passive boxing means "don't get hit" because you are predisposed to avoiding punches, you are more comfortable doing this - this is just one style of boxing.
    Aggressive boxing means hit MORE and get hit less because you surely will be touched as you are coming forward, you have more chances getting hit while moving towards an opponent rather that when moving away. One should make a clear distinction here between effective and ineffective pressure. Example of ineffective pressure - Porter coming forward, failing to maintain distance and smothering himself constanlty against Brook. Effective pressure - Roman Gonzales, Kovalev or GGG - these guys come forward BUT stop just before getting smothered, masters of footwork/distance.

    Jab - agree, it's one of his boxing tools.

    The other boxing arsenal is his footwork that enables him to set and MAINTAIN a proper distance to land more punches than an opponent. It was beautiful to watch how GGG adjusted to Murray's clinching by moving quickly away from Martin's grabbing while landing shots on his way in.
     
  5. Redondo5

    Redondo5 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it's worrying and strange that a senior member of this forum sees fit to make this an issue of this on a boxing forum?

    Living "amongst them" as if 'them' live some type of subhuman existance. The fact may be that his family live in some isolated christian community - TBH i don't know how their social structure is in kazakhstan... but I highly doubt based on my knowledge of the world that it would be possible to live in total isolation from the majority of a country if you live in a major city... Even though it's not even a significant matter at all. Just wierd you would need to bring this up as if it has something to do with GGG boxing ability?

    Also Bhop is not NOI at all... and Amir Khan is not a sufi... this is what happens when ignorant people judge people based on generalisations.
     
  6. Adil

    Adil Active Member Full Member

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    I am from Kazakhstan, it's a unique place in former USSR if you think about minorities, because they are well integrated into society. Russians, Koreans, Uigurs, Ukrainians, Germans have their own culture but also respect and even adopt some of Kazakh traditions, we have a lot of mixed marriages, and GGG is one example of a mixed marriage.

    When GGG pointed out: "My mom is Korean, my father is Russian, but I am Kazakh", he didn't mean he's Kazakh by blood off course but by upbringing. When IB reveals stats of Maikuduk district being 2/3 Russian, he fails to broaden on GGG childhood, which was mainly in Kazakh boxing society. Boxing in Kazakhstan is a leading sport among Kazakhs and he was raised among Kazakhs, competed with them, made friends with them during competitions, went together internationally. What could be added to GGG's strong qualitites is that he had to hustle more than Kazakhs to get the respect he deserves because he was a minority. But other than that all this religion talk is irrelevant to boxing, he's not a muslim, in fact many people in Kazakhstan continue to remain atheists even among Kazakhs due to the Soviet past (not saying GGG is an atheist).

    Other than that IB post was awesome, very good read! Delighted to know he knows some Kazakh as well, "rahmet dosyna;)"
     
  7. Redondo5

    Redondo5 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thank you for that... very infoirmative... and based on personal experiance. I agree - Atheist, Christian or Muslim doesn't make him better or worse boxer.

    I just don't get why the OP had to mention stuff about his religious beleifs and emphasised that he was not part of "them". Why is it relevant? I am seeing a worrying trend on the forum where people are openly spouting prejudiced **** and getting applauded for it... Like the other day someone blaming Beterbiev for Beslan massacre because he is ethnic chechen (and all chechens have a shady background according to that poster) and maybe a muslim.
     
  8. Adil

    Adil Active Member Full Member

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    This is a last year photo of GGG in his hometown boxing gym with kids after his dad died, you can judge by the number of asians (Kazakhs) how it's a "more Russian" society, which is not. And you see a lot of mixed kids there.

    http://cs425622.vk.me/v425622131/7b86/VJkzkIUZQoo.jpg
    http://cs425622.vk.me/v425622131/7dd4/VJCPnk3oOQw.jpg
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The Gods accuse each other of being atheists if they don't believe in Golovkin.
     
  10. GolovKing

    GolovKing ESB Since 2006 Full Member

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    Thanks for writing that. Very cool.
     
  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I've seen a few documentaries about Kazakhstan over the years. It's an interesting place. I enjoyed watching them.

    This was one of them.

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    I've also enjoyed watching Kazakh boxers before too, before I was a fan of Golovkin. I followed Jirov since the Olympics and I was really impressesd with Bakhtiyar Artayev, Serik Sapiyev, Bakhyt Sarsekbayev the first time I laid eyes on them. Artayev and Sapiyev get more attention but I remember being seriously impressed by Sarsekbayev when he fought the Cuban Carlos Banteux in the Olympic final.
     
  12. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    This is the type of post that should be published on boxing sites. Very informative.
     
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  13. Adil

    Adil Active Member Full Member

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    Sarsekbayev lacked finesse but gave Lara (who will school GGG yo lol) two losses anyway. Did you watch how Sapiyev schooled Errol Spence (future of boxing according to some people)?

    However, arguably the best out of Kazakh prodigies was the Olympic champ 20 y.o. Bekzat Sattarkhanov who died in a car accident the same year, one of few who gave Rigondeaux a loss in the ams.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    A sweet check hook counter, up there with Mayweather's over Hatton (all it was missing is a turnbuckle for him to ram into on the way down for maximum comic effect).

    The expression on Lajuan's face as he is lying there, "Are you ****ing kidding me? Did the roof of the Düsseldorf Interconti-Hotel just cave in??" :yep
     
  15. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    amir may not be sufi, but i have seen him dance in a trance state more than once.

    thankyou!