Gennady Golovkin Homecoming and Final Fight

Sure, ofc I have no problem with the result as a draw.

 

Yes, conveniently nobody ducked him when he decided to cash out.

Excuses, excuses everywhere to justify GG throwing his talent to the toilet in a disgusting manner.

 

But you also said the first fight was dubious. Given that the result was a draw, then there was nothing "dubious" about the result.

If you found Byrd's 10-2 scorecard "dubious", I get that and I would agree that was dubious. But the result itself wasn't dubious. There's a pretty big disconnect between outrage over Byrd's scorecard, the result itself, and the argument that Canelo won.

We all agree that 10-2 Canelo was far too wide. If you see it as a narrow GGG win or a draw, that's fine. But to go from being OK with a draw to saying there's no way Canelo won, that doesn't really add up. If you're OK with a draw, then all that would be needed is one other round to flip and you have a Canelo victory. That's the issue here. I get the outrage over the 10-2 Canelo scorecard. But then there's who actually won and what is considered reasonable. There were very few rounds in that match that were won convincingly by either fighter. That first fight had a ton of possible swing rounds if we're honest. So I'm just trying to understand how you can so strongly claim that there's no way Canelo won to being OK with a draw. The difference between a draw and a 7-5 Canelo victory is extremely small.

 

What a ridiculous argument.

Might as well say if you're ok with a shutout for one fighter you're ok with a shutout for the other one.

 

No, that's a completely different argument at the other end of the spectrum.

 

It's the exact same argument. If one score is close enough to the other it's acceptable you said. Well that gets from 12-0 to 0-12 eventually.

 

No, going from 12-0 to 0-12 is quite different than going from 6-6 to 7-5. 12-0 to 0-12 requires 12 rounds to flip, 6-6 to 7-5 requires 1 round to flip.

 

I said dubious because it very well could have been a gg's victory, and imho the result would have been equally fair as well.

The 2nd and 3rd fights, imho, were close but clear canelo's victories.

That's why I think the first one is dubious. Because I accept doubts about the result. I can understand people claiming that gg won. And I can understand people thinking that a draw was not fair (even if I think it is). Those claiming that gg won 2nd or 3rd fight are just fanboys, deluded nuthuggers.

 

Just read your post again please.

 

Hope it’s not Martinez just because GGG may be past prime, but he’s not that far gone. It will be a completely one sided annihilation. Suppose it’ll be a good pay day for Martinez though so would be happy for him in that sense.

 

What i think he is thinking and most probably feel similarly is there are reasonable ranges. For me, in the first fight the clear winner was GGG. Anything other than a GGG win is Travesty. I think the first fight ranges from 9-3 to 7-5 GGG, with the 7-5 being giving Canelo every possible round you can split hairs to give him. The 3rd fight is simular, the general public thinks Canelo won clearly, the consensus is anything from 9-3 to 7-5 for Canelo. Some blind Canelo fan boys having it even worse. I have Canelo winning 7-5 as did 2 of the 3 judges. One can make a case for a draw by splitting hairs,but that is not a good look, as the general public has Canelo winning clearly.

 

SMH. This must be an old video game or something.

 

Fix as in Canelo knew about it? Or just Golovkin or Kovalev knew about it? What do you mean by fix.

 

You make some decent points but in the second fight as much as GGG was coming on in the end part of it Canelo himself was dishing it just as much back to him & then some,

It's not like Golovkin won all those last 4 rounds in their second bout & he was down by some rounds, that one was a clear Canelo win at least for me & permanently damaged & took what was left of GGG's prime there after.

 

He gave us 12 years of marquee fights.

He deserves this