Gennady Golovkin If He Was Around In '92-'93

Looking at the list of the top rated middleweights in the early 90s is kind of depressing.

Part of it is that the era today is light years weaker in talent, but it's also disappointing how small the number of matchups that were actually made between the top guys around MW at that time.

So much talent, so little fights

 

Haha, this isn't a defensive minded Hopkins or Toney.

Roy's packing too much glass. GGG would get him, but the real answer is this fight would never happen. I can't see Roy Jones taking this fight.

 

Come on...Jones isn't fighting this guy. He would avoid him like he did all the killer punchers in the early 90s.

GGG could beat any of them, Hagler is the only MW of last few decades that might beat this animal.

 

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Oh, you are from an alternate world where 92 Jones fought Jackson, gman..etc Jones isn't in this discussion.

It's about matching The durable GGG with other punchers he's capable of outboxing or taking out.

 

Golovkin would have a punchers chance against Jones but would loose 9 times out of 10. With Toney it depends on which version shows up Toney on form I would favour every time, but Toney off form Golovkin would probably beat him but not stop him though, Toney's chin is pure granite. He would knock Julian Jackson and Reggie Johnson out no question, Kalambay not sure, as long as he doesn't get caught I could see Sumbu putting a clinic on him. Michael Nunn, I think Golovkin knocks him out after being outboxed for a few rounds. G-Man 50/50 fight IMO. Nigel Benn was too reckless as a MW, GGG knocks him out in a great short fight with both landing hurtful punches but I think Golovkin has the better chin from what I have seen which would be the difference. Chris Eubank, like with Toney it would depend which version shows up but Eubank was way too tough to be stopped. Mike McCallum, can't decide on this one though it's going to the cards IMO, McCallum was tough and a great defence.

 

The Tomato can crusher is hitting as hard as Tyson ? There should be some kind of a IQ test first before one is allowed to post in the classic section.......

Wake me up when he faces someone with a pulse and if he hits so hard and is unbeatable as his ignorant fans claim why the F is he not moving up to 168 or 175 where are some challenges are ?

He is in his thirties and still fighting skinny cannon fodder......

 

Why wouldn't Roy have fought him?

He left MW to fight Toney, who some people rated as the 2nd best fighter in the world, with wins over Sosa, Nunn, McCallum, Johnson, Barkley and Littles etc.

I'm a big fan of Golovkin's, and boy can he hit. But he's also very hittable himself, and Roy would have had huge advantages in speed over him.

Roy also had incredible reflexes back then, and one punch knockout power. IMHO, Roy would have found it easy enough to land on GGG, whereas GGG would have found it hard to catch Roy with anything significant. This thread needs to be bumped in a few years, because GGG hasn't done a deal as yet. At this moment in time, I'd only have given him a punchers chance.

But the fights I'd love to have seen more than any other, would have been GGG vs McCallum and Nunn.

 

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How many times have we discussed this?

Why would Roy have avoided him? Roy would have had no issue whatsoever in finding GGG.

Roy was faster of hand and foot, he had better reflexes, and had just as much variation if not more, plus one punch knockout power.

Hagler is the only fighter of the last two decades who might have beaten this animal??

I'm a fan, but who's he fought??

What about Toney, McCallum and Nunn etc?

 

GGG is only responsible to fight men only in his weight class. No more, no less. Did Marvin Hagler for example challenge the top lightheavy fighters of his era ? Did Ray Robinson take on Charley Burley when Robbie was WW king ? Did the great Sandy Saddler dare challenge LW king Ike Williams to prove he was a great fighter? Hell NO. So why do you and others penalize GGG for
being too good for men in his weight class ? The only great MW
of the modern era who defied weight classes was Harry Greb and we will never see his like again...

 

Great post.

I think out of all the fights, McCallum would be the most fascinating one. He was past his peak, but he was still great in the early 90's at 35.

I've got to say that as great as he looks, GGG has still got a long way to go before we can claim who he'd have done what to. No disrespect to his opposition, but you'd have to assume that the guys you've listed would have had no issue beating the likes of Macklin, Murray and Munroe etc. I think people are getting a little carried away.

 

Hi Burt,

First of all, I've never debated with you before, and I just wanted to say that I've been reading your posts for a long time now, and I've got an enormous amount of respect for you. You have unbelievable knowledge, and I always enjoy reading your facts, opinions, and logic. I regularly come over here to the classic to educate myself, and I used to love reading John Garfield's posts. It's such an awful shame he's no longer with us. But you and the other great members make this forum the best one out there.

Back on topic, I think you've made some great points. The only thing I would add though, is that the circumstances are a little different today. The fighters obviously don't fight as often, and there's more weight classes around today. Robbo and Burley did miss a few fighters, but they also fought other great fighters, and again, they fought a lot more often. Marvin Hagler was a great fighter, but he was smaller than GGG, and he often used to weigh under 160 with same day weigh ins. Also, when he was at his peak, there was no SMW division. Now GGG himself isn't a big MW, but he hasn't got the competition that Marvin had, and he has said that he'll fight anyone between JMW-SMW. So he's put a lot of pressure on himself there, and because he's already in his early 30's, people are becoming frustrated and are wanting him to move up, myself included. I can't blame him for his MW competition, and as you say, he shouldn't be penalised for it. But I can certainly see where other members are coming from. Personally, I'd like to see him remain at MW for another 12 months, to see if Alvarez moves up and he can fight both him and Cotto etc. But after that, I think he's got to make a move upto SMW. In another year, I don't think there'll be much left for him at MW. But the pressure he's under to move up, is just a testament to his great ability. He's a great fighter, and I'm going to enjoy the ride for as long as it lasts.


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I agree I think all those guys would beat Macklin, Murray and Munroe with the exception of maybe Benn because he was so reckless when he was a MW, though they wouldn't all stop or knock out all three of them like Golovkin did IMO.

 

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