Gennady Golovkin just said he would fight Maywheather @ 154

Am I dreaming or was Pac a svelte 107 pounder earlier in his career?
He's had a lot of help over the years.

 

Just seems like he is willing to jump weight up or down, when the money is right and if he has advantages over the opponent. But, he won't do it to face the universally recognized best fighter a division above. It's strategic, but, not admirable, in my opinion. He's a good fighter, and I would like to see him finally get the best fighters @ 160, in the ring. Obviously, he shouldn't just sit on the shelf waiting. But, it's clear to me, he feels Ward is way too big a step up, in talent, not just weight (being that he's going up to 168 for JCC Jr).

 

you may be right
golovkin has crossed the pond, has network backing, and everyone is sitting at the table with their knives and forks ready though...waiting for him to take the throne

he has the 'golden carrot' in sight, and a ward fight means a lot more $$$ if golovkin takes over from Martinez first

 

Same goes for Ward.

 

big difference is ward is proven at world level

 

Yeah, so doesn't that apply even more to him then?

 

it does if you're talking about the "universally recognized best fighter in the division" - which is what you replied to...

 

Perhaps, but Ward has never, as a pro, fought above or below 168...not for money or any other reason, to my knowledge. And unlike GGG, he has cleaned out his division, already. He has never professed to not be ready to move up for one guy and then turn around move up for another. GGG was not ready for 168 (or even a C/W, I'm sure), when Ward's name came up. But, he is moving up and giving JCC Jr the weight advantage? For the record, JCC Jr is guilty of the same thing when it comes to Ward. It can't be had both ways. Both are ducking Ward to fight each other in Ward's division. I'm looking forward to this fight. But, it is what it is.

When Ward moves up, there will be no doubt he is there to take over the division.

 

Ok so he has cleaned out his division what's he doing at 168? Why is he calling out smaller fighters to move up? He needs to move up himself.

 

As far as I know, he's caught up in legal dusputes with his promoter. And I would say he has earned the right to rule his division and see how things unfold before making any moves. But, I agree that he should move up if these MW's don't move up soon. He's already losing time from his prime years, from the promotional issues and waiting on the right, well deserved, money making opportunity. He shouldn't wait too long for the MWs.

With that said, his choices don't seem to have anything to do with not being ready for a step up in competition. There is a clear distinction I am making between his reasons and those of GGG.

 

Well lets see if the JCC-GGG fight materializes first. that would be a very good step in the right direction as far as GGG taking on better competition.

I don't see what the big deal is with wanting to clean out the MW division. He knows there's obstacles up for being able to unify all the titles since Kid Chocolate is a SHowtime fighter and Martinez doesn't look like he wants to fight him.

So who exactly is GGG waiting for at 160? Barker, Gaele, Sturm? No offense but these aren't the kind of fighters that'll catapult GGG into a P4P stalwart.

If the 168 lb fight goes through between him and Chavez Jr, the winner should take on Andre Ward, plain and simple.

Ward is DYING to make either of those fights. If GGG is going to campaign at 168 against Chavez, he should step into the ring with Ward afterward.

They have close to the same amount of pro fights (although Ward clearly has the much stronger resume,) he has a longer amateur background than Ward does and and he's older than Andre is. How long does GGG and his handlers want to wait before finally stepping up to the plate? They talk an enormous amount of garbage about GGG being such a feared fighter. If that's the case, fight Ward after Chavez Jr and lets find out how good Golovkin actually is.

 

Big fan of GGG but I can't take this challenges seriously...I think its more Abel schizophrenia more than anything at this point

Had GGG moved to 154 in 2011, he could have some belts and made enough noise to force Mayweather to take the fight by now

Now going to 168 then draining back to 154...unless GGG. is going tiny at 170 fight night vs 190 JCC...He will have to cut muscle to make 154...which should be done at a very slow pace...if one wants to be effective otherwise he will be greatly diminished


All in all shitty management, unless their plan is ducking big $ fights :twisted:

 

If I'm right Ward was Light heavyweight at the Olympics, which is about 178,5 lbs. He probably weighted significantly under the limit, but he's still way too big for a middleweight to move up. If he wants to challenge Golovkin, he should simply move down to middleweight.

In that regard, Golovkin vs. Mayweather would be unfair as well, but at least Golovkin said that he would move down (which would be still be an unfair fight Imo).

 

I don't see anything wrong with GGG testing the waters against JCC, he's never fought at 168 and even at 160 he's not even proven, to move up and face one of the best p4p straight away who's much bigger than you in your first fight at that weight is too much of an ask.

 

No offense to Gennady because I actually like him as a fighter and his fan-friendly style, but what exactly has he done up to this point in his career to think he deserves a shot with Mayweather?

He's a solid fighter but he hasn't really taken on anyone even remotely good (I guess Macklin is an OK win at best.)

He needs to start taking on top tier guys before he's even mentioned as a possible opponent for FLoyd. Sanchez has delusions of grandeur in even mentioning FLoyd's name when his guy hasn't done anything to deserve a shot with the P4P king.

At least in Canelo's case he was taking on another undefeated fighter in Austin Trout who came off the biggest win of his career beating Cotto at MSG.

And aside from the fact Canelo took on the better fighter compared to anyone on GGG's resume, he's also a HUGE draw in Mexico. It was a no-brainer for FLoyd to take that fight.