Gennady Golovkin says he will meet Floyd Mayweather at light-middleweight

there is a problem because floyd is a champ at 154.

 

What has GGG done at 154? You forget Floyd is the champ at 147 too.. So everyone from 140-160 can challenge Floyd and it's no problem? Floyd is holding the belt hostage and might not have plans on ever fighting at 154 again.. He should drop the belt from our standpoint.. He might want to hold on to it until he retires.. No one but GGG, who fights at 160, want to fight him for it anyway.. You act like GGG would stay at 154 if he does win...

 

He's 2.5 inches taller (which i call BS on), which is nothing (oscar was taller) and so long as there's a rehydration clause Floyd can keep him within 10lbs. GGG is a small middle, and there's no reason why Floyd can't EASILY put on 5lbs of muscle within a few months and still look tremendous because he's a true athlete. Unlike when oscar went up and looked like **** physically, Floyd will be able to hold it well. He and GGG have the same frames pretty much.

Canelo isn't an ELITE/PRIME, and really you can't really say he's even hit his prime yet when they fought. He was a puppy. Corrales I will give you, forgetting how discombobulated he was from the quick weight loss floyd forced on him, and who's the other? Hatton? I will give Floyd credit for facing Corrales of those guys, he was a beast, but Hatton and Canelo, good fighters for their times, but not elite.
If Floyd had taken those fights with Tsyu, Williams, Freitas, Pac 6 years ago, I wouldn't be saying any of this but his resume is so lacking its not even funny.

 

stop muddling this topic. ggg absolutely has basis to challenge floyd at 154. he is the champ over there. hatton and jmm also hasn't done sheet at 147 and floyd fought them.

 

I have to say that I seriously disagree with your though process here. Those two are at least 2.5 inches apart. That's a big difference. I doubt many people would argue that two people who are 2.5 inches apart in height are practically the same height. And to be within 10 lbs. of Floyd on fight night, the rehydradtion clause would have to be 160 to 165 lbs. Look, if fans really want to see Golovkin fight Mayweather at 154 lbs. with a rehydration of clause of 160 to 165 lbs., then so be it. I think that puts Golovkin at a huge disadvantage though and eliminates any thoughts of Mayweather increasing his legacy at all from the fight.

As far as them having pretty much the same frame. Just think about what you're saying. You say they are about the same height and have pretty much the same frame, yet one guy started his career at 130, the other started out at MW. One fights at WW right now, the other fights at MW. If they were about the same height and had pretty much the same frame, then Golovkin would be able to fight him at 147. I think we both know that's highly unlikely.

You see how you're changing your argument here? First you argued, that Floyd never fought a prime, undefeated fighter. Now you've changed it to prime, undefeated, elite fighter. Of course, Canelo, Hatton, and Corrales were all top 10 p4p when Floyd fought them. So it's hard to say they weren't elite. You contradicted yourself as well. You said Corrales was prime, but Canelo was a pup. Canelo was about the same age as Corrales was, had been a pro for longer and had more fights.

The problem with your argument here, is that 3 of those guys you listed arguably ducked Mayweather. Mayweather called out Freitas and Tszyu countless times and was continuously ignored. Of course, if you have any sort of proof that either one made any attempt to fight Floyd, then I'd like to see it. I might be overlooking or forgetting something. We all know about the Pacquiao saga. That's all a matter of how you see things. The fight originally fell apart because Pacquiao claimed he would be weakened for several days if he had blood drawn. You can interpret that how you want.

 

I don't think you're even reading what I wrote.. Maybe it's too long..

Floyd never called out Marquez and Hatton.. They went up to challenge Floyd.. That has nothing to do with anything..

Floyd might not ever fight at 154 again.. Who cares.. For the belt, he should drop it but might keep it until he retires.. Floyd isn't obligated to fight at 154 anymore...

 

What makes you think Golovkin won't be drained at 154? He's in tremendous shape at 158.

 

Hope not. Had too much of that with Pac and Floyd.

 

:deal

They ****ing thrived off of each other.

 

They did. We didn't. We got stuck with them fighting lower level guys.

 

First off, i did say ELITE/PRIME, go check in the original post. Not that is matters, either way Floyd out of 48 fights has barely fought anyone undefeated and/OR elite/prime.
"This fight should happen, but only reason it won't is because Floyd doesn't fight elite fighters in their primes"

Secondly, both Floyd and GGG are naturally ectomorphes, GGG is just a bit taller with a big heavier frame. I don't buy GGG is above 5.9, he looks short but I know heights get exaggerated sometimes in sports. p4p Floyd isn't that much smaller and I will stand by that.
As far as ANYONE ducking Floyd, its complete BS. Kosta Tsyu and all those guys were clamoring to get a fight with him back then. But don't take my word for it, this guy knows his boxing history very well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=forstYqvDUI

And as far as the original negotiations, Pac did agree eventually to a cut off that floyd offered, but withdrew it, thus ending that. I personally think Floyd would have beaten Manny back then, rather easily, and I think he would have actually "fought" him, unlike the horrible performance he gave his fans and IMO didn't deserve a W, neither man did enough in their fight.

 

My apologies. Regardless, Floyd has fought 3 prime, undefeated, elite fighters.

Fine, I don't buy that Mayweathe is over 5' 6" and a half. We both can make up heights for guys, that doesn't mean a whole lot though. Sure, heights are exaggerated in sports, buy why would it only be exaggerated for one of them?

Fine, p4p Pacquiao and Marquez aren't much smaller than Floyd. It doesn't do us much good to ignore actual measurements and weights in lieu of our own personal opinions. And since Golovkin isn't much bigger, then perhaps they should fight at 150.

I never saw it. I never those guys mention Floyd. I've seen Floyd call out Freitas and Tszyu though.

That's an over 40 minute video, and I don't even know who that guy is. I'm not sure what that's supposed to prove.

You're a bit off base here. There were last minute negotiations and Floyd's side offered a 14 day cutoff as a last effort to make the fight. Pacquiao's side rejected the cutoff, and Arum lied and said the compromise was never offered. The arbritator confirmed Arum was lying and that a 14 day cutoff was offered. A couple of days later, Pac signed to fight Clottey. A few weeks after that, Mayweather said no more cutoff.

Yet you say Mayweather ducked him. If that makes sense to you, then ok.

IMO Mayweather won that fight clearly. All 3 judges saw it the same way, as did all of the commentators, as well as a large majority of the viewers.