Gennady Golovkin the best Middleweight ever?

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  1. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's an excellent fighter but he hasn't fought anyone of note and he's already 34 years old.

    The MW division is a very old and talent-rich division, easily one of the best out of the original weight classes. I can name at least 15 fighters who campaigned at MW that easily trumps what Gennady has accomplished.

    He's a very good fighter with a good all around skillset, but his resume is lacking to put it nicely. There's a lot of great MW's of the past that had over 100 pro fights and fought everyone there was to fight. If he continues on this path of feasting on B/C level fighters, he'll never be considered one of the ATG's at MW.
     
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  2. tommyg6

    tommyg6 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if there's one thing I like about GGG apart from his KO talent is that he's an extremely safe bet to make. Guaranteed money. I always make money from GGG fights.
     
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  3. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not too much money because the odds are always ridiculously in his favor with his level of competition.
     
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  4. Loudon

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    Are we going to pretend that Roy wouldn't have hit GG cleanly?

    Then what would have happened?

    Do you remember how fast a prime version of Roy was?

    http://youtu.be/eyQkaeRgh2Q


    It's far too early to predict he'd beat Roy.

    Let's wait and see what happens in a few years.
     
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  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tarver didn't figure it out. He just caught him with a beautiful shot in the rematch. But Roy was 35 at that point with 50 fights on his resume. If Tarver had figured him out like you say, he'd never have lost the first fight where Roy was exhausted for the last 3-4 rounds.

    Most boxers today wouldn't have been able to have beaten a prime version of Roy no matter how hard they studied.
     
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  6. kenneth86

    kenneth86 Active Member Full Member

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    so far so good for ggg but his best win is still Lemiuex so let's calm down a little
     
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  7. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I tend to rate the Murray win just a touch higher than Lemuiex, but yeah. GGG is far behind a lot of middleweights in terms of resume. H2H however might be a different discussion.
     
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  8. Ilesey

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    Go clean your headlights with toothpaste, Sam.

    You big minge.
     
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  9. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    Lol
     
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  10. Outstock

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    He isn't even greater than Sergio Martinez , Kelly Pavlik or Arthur Abraham.
     
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  11. kragz

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    :patsch
     
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  12. rojoparanoico

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    He is right!! :deal:deal:deal
     
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  13. HerolGee

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    3g needs to supplant/outdo king Arthur first, then he can move on to guys like Martinez.
     
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  14. kk17

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    :patsch GGG does everything better than Abraham has better wins at MW too.

    He has surpassed already Martinez too.
     
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  15. Rumsfeld

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    It's worth noting that Tarver and McGirt worked on setting up a shot similar to the one Tarver landed, though. Perhaps they couldn't have expected the astounding outcome in their wildest dreams, but they were specifically working on stepping in for that type of counter where Roy's athleticism usually allowed him to seamlessly glide back just out of reach of harm's way.

    I agree with you and wouldn't say Tarver "figured it out". But Buddy had mentioned this was something they specifically prepared for. The execution itself may have had a "perfect storm" situation that enabled the shot to land so perfectly, but Tarver and (especially) McGirt do deserve credit for exploiting a perceived weakness they saw in Roy's game.
     
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