Gennady Golovkin the best Middleweight ever?

That's fine. I acknowledge and respect that and I give them both a lot of credit. But Hammer is trying to say that Tarver studied him, beat him, and now modern day fighters are privy to Roy's style. In other words, GG would have had no problem because of what Tarver did. It's laughable. GG has never seen anything like Roy at 25, and I don't think Tarver would ever have beaten Roy in his prime. The other thing is, even if you did study prime versions of Roy for hours on end, once you were in the ring, everything was different. Not forgetting of course that Tarver was also a southpaw. So again, I respect what you're saying, but there's no way GG would have been prepared for Roy, just because Tarver caught him after 50 fights at 35.

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Yep I agree, the whole fight would look like the last 30 seconds of round 4 of the GGG vs Curtis Stevens match. This shows that he doesn't walk through punches because he can, it's because has has next to no defense what so ever, he would get backed up and either stopped or knocked out.

 

:-( Obvious troll thread. Is this the best the trolls can come up with?

 

Roy was shot to **** when he moved back down in weight which I'm sure you know. I don't think he was motivated either anymore. Not sure if many remember this, but during his prime when he was beating everyone and would rarely lose a single round during this run, he visited Gerald McClellan in his wheel chair and saw for himself the damage that can be inflicted and it affected Jones. He didn't want to hurt people and land them in a similar state and kinda made him more tame in the ring. This is when he started basically carrying opponents more and didn't want to unleash RJ.

But for anyone to put GGG in the same sentence as Roy is ridiculous -- at this point in time. GGG has still yet to defeat an elite opponent. And really is Canelo even elite? I don't think so but he's all we got. But all of this went on also when Tyson was destroying guys and some fans started comparing him to Ali and believing he was better. But that's also TYSON in the most popular division in boxing and Tyson was still a kid with crazy potential. GGG is already mid 30s and maxing on his potential.
GGG still has a lot to prove before he's even mentioned with Roy Jones. And GGG is my favourite fighter lets not disregard, so this is straight up.

 

Right, Roy did not bring a new style to boxing, and no boxer since Roy has learned anything about countering that style. Roy was just the most amazing thing to ever behold - up until the DAY he was shot (which happened to be the day he fought Tarver). it was all a coincidence.

 

Prime Roy would box circles around GGG. All wrong for him.

 

I should consider your opinion, but your vcash says otherwise. You apparently have a bad habit of confusing logic with emotion.

 

I'm not emotionally invested in either fighter. Just saying it how I see it.

 

GGG biggest fans should be in this thread shooting down anyone calming he is the greatest MW in boxing history. I believe GGG can accomplish awesome things in his career but his time is running short. Disrespecting the sport I love with such a claim does GGG no service it only hurts his reputation.

 

There hasn´t been more dominant MW in 25 years, but he has still lot to prove.

But I disagree on Sergio and Pavlik.. He has done better and more dominant work than Pavlik did and it´s not even close. Pavlik had one good win against Taylor, but he lost to Martinez and didn´t even fight at MW that many fights. Golovkin also made a clear statement against Macklin that he is better fighter than Sergio. Macklin said it himself even though Sergio is his good friend. Murray can state the same.. Barker fought Sergio, but thank his trainer for not letting him fight Golovkin etc. there are too many obvious signs that state Golovkin is superior MW.

 

Good post.

I don't think he was that motivated to face Tarver at first, but he got under Roy's skin throughout 2003 and I think he was motivated when the fight was signed. But the weight was probably more on his mind than what Tarver was.

Regarding GG, I too am a fan. I'm enjoying the ride. I really want to see him fight Canelo, Jacobs, Saunders and Eubank. But people are getting a little carried away. I don't know how anyone could say with certainty that they think he'd have beaten Roy in his prime.