Gennady Golovkin vs James J Corbett

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  1. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree. Golovkin was much more fluid. He used to play with guys, tossing out soft quick little pitty pat punches to test the guys reactions and to set him up for the bombs. Doesn't do that sort of thing anymore. I hate it when boxers that can punch fall in love with their power. No, dude, that's not why you're KOing people. It's the setup.
     
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    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

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    Again I agree 100% I enjoy watching the pre Sanchez version better. Hes a much better boxer than given credit for and he used to cut the ring off better too. Hes kinda gotten away with going that effectively and follows too much now IMO
     
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    Yeah but on that clip of Golovkin I see someone walking forward being countered none stop.
     
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    I remember years ago someone got a video of Floyd, put it in black and white and reduced the frame rate and he ended up looking like a primitive version of Joe Gans.
     
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    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

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    Personally I dont see much in Corbett but its kool to agree to disagree
     
  6. FrankinDallas

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    I'm sure Corbett would occasionally fail to land a clean punch. Even in the 1890's boxers knew how to duck once in a while.

    Yes, GGG failed to get hit by a clean punch. He also ducked his head occasionally.

    I've no idea where you're going with these questions. Corbett was undoubtably a fine defensive boxer. The best of his time, probably. But he wasn't Ares, the God of War. Both Fitzsimmons and Jeffries proved it.
     
  7. lufcrazy

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    I don't see much in terms of him being a particularly amazing cruiserweight fighter.

    For instance he doesn't look as good as Johnny Nelson to me.

    But his style, combined with being bigger and quicker than Golovkin, means I have no issues favouring him over Gennady.

    I also felt BJS would have beaten Golovkin as well.
     
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    You said he wouldn't land a clean punch on Golovkin.

    That's ridiculous.

    That's where I'm going.

    I agree with you he isn't Ares.
     
  9. FrankinDallas

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    I was being sarcastic. Turn your sarcasm filter off. I have no doubt Corbett would land some punches on GGG but I'm sure we agree that 1 Corbett wasn't a ko artist and 2 GGG has a granite chin...right?
    My point is (are) that GGG would survive any punches, would walk him down and knock him out.
     
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    I agree with everything apart from the last sentence.
     
  11. BCS8

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    Good thread. Look, I'm sure Corbett would land on GGG, but people are starting to develop an idea that it's easy to land clean bombs on Gennadiy based on a few fights where he basically neglected his own defence because he felt the other guy couldn't hurt him. I don't know why GGG does this, it's a bad habit, and especially since he actually has some good defensive skills. Witness:



    And here's some good analysis:

     
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    Jeffries needed over 20 rounds to do that and he was bigger, stronger and more durable than GGG. Corbett wasn't easy to stop and GGG is not a swarmer. It would be a very hard fight for him.
     
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    Look, agreed that Jeffries was a beast of a man, particularly for his time. But Golovkin, who has only average speed for a middleweight, moves like greased lightning compared to Jeffries. Look at the footage:



    Corbett's clear strength is his speed over a guy like Jeffries, and I'm not convinced that Corbett is faster than GGG to begin with. Corbett will find it much harder to stick and move against Golovkin than Jeffries, who pretty much plods after his man and seeks to impose his strength.

    Sticking and moving against Golovkin means dealing with his jab, and solving the riddle of the way he controls space to defend himself. Corbett was so good because he was the one asking the riddle of footwork in his day. In the modern era, it's expected of a top fighter to understand how to close the ring and move about, as a matter of course.
     
  14. 70sFan865

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    Then we disagree, cause I see Corbett as clearly faster fighter and unlike Jeffries GGG wouldn't be able to impose his strength inside.
    It was always expected from fighters.
    Corbett did well against Fitzsimmons who wasn't a plodder.
     
  15. FrankinDallas

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    And Jeffries obliterated Corbett 3 yrs later in 10. Jeffries was learning his craft in the first fight. 3 yrs later, even after a year of training, watching and analyzing Jeffries bouts and adding 10 pounds of more he STILL got whacked out even worse than the first time by a plodding Jeffries.
     


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