Gennady Golovkin vs. Saúl Álvarez - at last, IB's official RBR

I agree, but given IB (and Byrd) giving the 6th round to Canelo, can we isolate the major problem-area of Byrd's scoring to giving Canelo the 8th and the 9th rounds?

Those two rounds are the difference between her scoring it 10-2 and a more reasonable 8-4. I mean Byrd scoring Round 5 to Canelo isn't all that unreaonable is it? It seems to me that it's her giving Canelo Rounds 8 and 9 that put her in the minority and made it so controversial and altogether too wide. I think we really need to go over rounds 8 and 9 and really look at these rounds before we truly crucify Byrd.

 

First of all, the over 80 percent figure is not "the masses", that 80 percent figure, and it isn't even 80 %, it's 70 something % since many had it a draw, but that's only a hundred or so media members.

So it's NOT 80% of the masses thought G won. It's 70 something % of the 100 or so media members polled right after the fight that stated they thought G won. The polls on here echoed that sentiment because it seems to me that there are many more vocal hardcore Golovkin fans on here than there are vocal hardcore Canelo fans.

 

Listen, even though we disagree on a lot of things especially GGG/Canelo, I'm glad you're around. Fans this passionate are good for boxing, period.

 

70% is still the majority mate so its irrelevant.

 

i know, i had it GGG, and think GGG won close but clear, but i do see where the Canelo backers are coming from. just because i have an opinion doesn't mean i'm going to be ignorant to the thought process of others with an opinion differing from me

 

I had the same card as you did for the Jacobs fight scuba fury... You're one of the little *****es on here that whines and complains like a little ***** when the decision doesn't go ur way, like a female... I don't see nobody spasming out like you do.lol

Fact of the matter is, that more and more people that are re watching the fight are starting to see how close the fight actually was while bitches like you continue to put out crappy scorecards....

 

I chalk that up to a lot of factors, that I think can explain why that is the case, why the majority had Golovkin winning. Allow me to explain that :

Golovkin's fanbase are very loud and vocal in their love for Golovkin. Just look at the booing of Canelo in the post fight interviews obviously from Golovkin's vocal fans in the arena. They boo Canelo, they praise Golovkin, at ALL COSTS. They'll fight for their favorite fighter Triple G with all their might and energy to the edge of the world. They'll never ever admit that Triple G lost a decision, especially to Canelo Alvarez, a guy that's been criticized every time he's been in a major fight and there's a decision. Trout, Lara, Mayweather, first 5 rounds of Khan, even Cotto.

It's been a reoccurring theme that many people think Canelo gets favorable decisions. So it's no surprise that given this dichotomy that a close fight here resulted in the majority thinking Golovkin won.

Then you have the fact that Canelo was backpeddling for a good amount of the fight, Golovkin was the busier fighter, was coming forward more. As we know, unless you're Floyd Mayweather, most fighters generally win close rounds when they are coming forwrad and throwing more punches.

Then on top of all that, you had the Byrd card. Which was the sole source of the outrage post-fight. You had many people saying G won just to protest the wideness of Byrd's card. You can't deny that all these factors contributed to the majority polled having G winning. A 70% majority given all these factors does not prove that somebody won.

 

I'm glad you're around too, and I appreciate your latest response.

 

IB looking like a top ten most wanted poster
I had it 115-113 GGG
My biggest disappointment was GGG not having a secondary plan if Canelo went on the move or boxed differently than he has in the past, which he did for this fight.
GGG could not cut the ring off from the Big Red Machine and also showed way too much respect for the first 3 rounds IMO
Still, GGG needs a different strategy for the rematch or Canelo will slip away again.
Thanks IB

 

I had it 116- 112 GGG at the time, but felt that it could certainly swing to a draw. That said, I'll have to sit down and score it again to see how dramatically my card might shift toward Canelo.

 

I had GGG 116-112 and that was being very generous to Alvarez. The only thing everyone agrees on is Byrd stinks at judging a fight.

 

Draw, people don't factor in defense while scoring (99% of the people here). That's why most people can't score.

They also seem to overly prioritize clean punching (Which is idiotic in its own right).

The four categories should be looked at evenly (Ok maybe a bit more to defense because it is the most important), still though. That's how fights are scored.

You have to analyze it fully after the fight (That's how you score properly). Scoring it during the fight usually doesn't give you the perfect picture.

 

No you didn't - not on fight night anyways.

I've only seen the fight once and the margin between my score and IB's was 1-2 points just like yours, just in a different direction.

You were freaking the hell out in the Canelo/Golovkin RBR - You even apologized to me afterwards in an attempt to save face because even nice and completely neutral guys like Kiwiman were disgusted with your behavior.

You've put crappy scorecards out for 2 Golovkin fights back to back. Everyone knows that you have a bone to pick with the guy(as evidenced by your freaking out in the RBR's and the **** you spew on here in general) The overwhelming consensus by fans and pundits was that Golovkin won the fight - be it by 1,2 or even 3 rounds.

 

9-3/8-4 type of fight in GGG'S favour.

I didn't find it hard to score, I thought Canelo was defensively excellent he just didn't punch enough and Golovkin was consistent throughout.

 

How do you freak out when you score the fight for the right guy? I was fine, you were scoring rounds to GGG for ineffective aggression, and your gay love for GGG... LOL