Gennady Golovkin vs. Saúl Álvarez - at last, IB's official RBR

Great thread by IB. I'm so ready for the rematch now!

 

I just had a chance to re-watch rounds 8 and 9 and the first thing that jumps out to me is that both of these rounds is that Golovkin was the aggressor for most of the round. Here's my breakdown of round 8 :

In the first minute Canelo was getting the better of Golovkin with clean hard punching. Several left hooks, right hands, and jabs landed by Canelo. Golovkin got in a few jabs but Alvarez was punching and landing the better punches many in combination in that first minute. Canelo was definitely winning the 8th round in the first minute.

Golovkin did however land one of his best jabs of the fight with 2:15 left in the 8th. Great jab there by Golovkin to get himself back into the round. Canelo responds with a nice right hand to the body with 2:13 left. Both men were landing jabs and I'll get to the jab count in this round later lol.

Towards the middle round it was still pretty even, Canelo was warned by the ref to "keep em up" when he threw a left hook to the belt-line that hit Golovkin's elbow and ricocheted down below the belt-line. The same thing happened again towards the end of the round, Golovkin blocked another belt-line left hook by Canelo, they didn't land low, they just hit Golovkin's body-blocking right elbow both times.

Both men continue to trade punches, Golovkin blocks a left hook well with 1:13 left but it put him off balance. Golovkin blocks another left hook from Alvarez with 1:08 left. With about a minute left in the round Golovkin got in a series of decent punches. With 47 seconds left Alvarez gets in a jab then Golovkin respoinds with a several jabs of his own with Canelo on the ropes, after getting hit with one of them Alvarez ducks down low and lands a beautiful uppercut bomb that rocks Golovkin with 41 seconds. This 8th round was definitely a close one and while Golovkin was landing throughout the round the better work was mostly coming from Alvarez.

What's interesting about this round was that Compubox has Golovkin with a 12 to 1 landed jabs advantage. Now I'm not sure Golovkin landed 12 jabs that round, but he did land a lot of jabs in that round. However Compubox only had Canelo landing 1 jab in the round, so I wanted to check this for myself, that just seemed way off. (and I was right lol) Now I've gone through the round and tracked Canelo's landed jabs and, I mean, I Can't believe Compubox only had Canelo landing 1 jab that round.

Please watch that round again and count the # of jabs Canelo landed. I listed all the jabs I counted Canelo landing this round, check these times to see for yourself. Crediting Canelo with only 1 jab landed that round is just atrocious.

Jabs Landed by Canelo in Round 8:

1. To start the round, it looked like Canelo landed a jab to the body 4 seconds into the round, hard to tell.
2. Canelo's jab with 2:49 left in the round missed Golovkin's head and hit his shoulder but then Golovkin moved and the end of the jab actually landed on Golovkin's face.
3. Canelo's jab with 2:40 left hit Golovkin on his left shoulder. These first 3 jabs of the round were borderline landed jabs, the two jabs hit the shoulder and one hit the side of the face late, so I'm not too concerned about these first 3 as far as Compubox counting them, but still you could count these first 3 as landed for Canelo.

4. Canelo landed what looked to be a jab to the face with 2:23 left, may have been counted as a left hook as it was sort of hard to tell if it was a jab or a left hook but it surely landed.

Now all the jabs listed below pretty clear that they were jabs and landed pretty clean for Canelo, yet he was only credited with 1 jab landed in the entire round. Please check these yourselves :

5. Canelo lands a jab to the face through the guard with 2:08 left.
6. Canelo lands a jab with 2:03 left that actually hits Golovkin in the arm near the elbow. It technically landed on his arm.
7. Canelo lands a hard jab to the face with 1:59 left in the round.
8. Canelo appears to land a jab with 1:44 left as the start of a one-two.
9. Canelo appears to land a quick jab with 1:21 left.
10. Canelo lands a hard jab with 1:06 left in the round.
11. Canelo lands a good jab to the face with 0:47 seconds left in the round.
12. Canelo lands another jab with 30 seconds left.
13. Canelo lands another jab with 27 seconds left.

So that's at the very least 7 clean clear jabs to the face landed by Canelo in the 8th round, and by my count about 13 landed jabs by Canelo in total.

So, Canelo actually landed somewhere between 7-13 jabs in the 8th round and only got credit for 1 landed jab! The jab numbers for Round 8 are absolutely laughable. I'm simply baffled how anybody can take compubox seriously after this. And don't just take my word for it. Check those times and count the jabs for yourself, you can't make this stuff up. And the 12-1 number in Round 8 was both on HBO's live telecast and in the official compubox numbers.

The uppercut bomb with 41 seconds left that Canelo landed was easily the best punch of the round and possibly of the fight. That really hurt Golovkin. Canelo started this round strong in the first minute landing combos, left hooks, right hands etc, Golovkin responded well in the middle minute and seemed to be taking control until that big uppercut with 41 seconds left. This was yet another very close round. Canelo landed at least 7 clean jabs in this round but was only credited with 1. Golovkin landed a good number of jabs himself, but the 12-1 jabs landed number is complete fiction.

Canelo's combos, left hooks, right hands, the big right uppercut and at least 7 clean landed jabs are more than enough to give him this round. Now it's true that Golovkin was a little busier and probably landed a few more punches but in terms of overall landed punches (notwithstanding the fictional 12-1 jabs landed edge Golovkin got by Compubox) it was very even and Canelo landed the better punches.

Not unreasonable to give that round to Canelo in my estimation. Golovkin was constantly the aggressor walking Canelo down, but total punches actually landed were very even.

 

Be nice if Oscar was too !

 

I think it's quite reasonable to give Canelo every round in this fight.
I had it 12-0 for Canelo.

 

Wot? Even the 7th?

 

Please count the Canelo landed jabs that I timestamped and confirm that what I'm saying is accurate. Can you believe that he was only credited with 1 landed jab in that round? How does that happen?

 

Boxed Ears is Tyson. No, I'm tellin' ya.

 

It's pure corruption my friend.
Golovkin has Bob Bennett, the judges, the ring girls, the bell ringer and the bell all in his pocket.

 

They shoulda stopped the fight at the 6th! But no, little Gennady had to pay in blood to satisfy the vampiric sanguine lust of Adelaide Byrd I hope they can put him back together

 

I just can't believe how off those compubox jab numbers are for round 8. Compubox says Canelo landed 1 jab. Canelo actually landed 7 clean clear jabs and about 13 jabs in total.