Gennady Golovkin vs Thomas Hearns

I'm showing that Golovkin can brawl if he has to just as he can box if he wants to.

Here is the evidence:

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I realise that many, many fighters have landed on Hearns. Inclusing Kinchen who had him hanging on like a limpet.

You realise that Hearns has a fragile constitution and Golovkin is cast-iron. If anybody is going down its Hearns.

Golovkin's opponents are typically larger than him. Golovkin fights under different dehydration rules than Hearns did. You're welcome.

He's a far better fighter than Kinchen. Kinchen did have a lot of success with the overhand right, however. The commentators even remarked about how susceptible Hearns is to it. This is what Gennady's overhand can do:

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Murray actually fought GGG. That is his take on how Golovkin fights. You said GGG can't apply pressure. Actual fighters disagree with you.

Here is is:

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Mine too.

Quillin actually sparred GGG. That is his take on how Golovkin fights. You said GGG can't apply pressure. Actual fighters disagree with you.

He can do both.

Here's that brawl you wanted:

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In that case why are people using examples of OLD Golovkin for this fight and feeling its legit?

 

No idea. Is it empirical that he is well faded vs meeting a better level of competition? I'm happy to sit back and see what the overall feel of the forum is as many will be in a better place to judge than myself. He's certainly getting on in years but by the same token he's never taken that much punishment. Hearns faded younger and more visibly but with more bouts and much stronger competition.

 

So your evidence is:

-Golovkin applied pressure on Martin murray, c level fighter

-quillun praised him in sparring

-for 2 minutes in the last round Golovkin applied pressure and failed to knockout canelo.

^This is your evidence that he could apply pressure and ko hearns...?

Youre saying he can do both, that if necessary he could outjab and outbox hearns even though he barely got a decision over Jacobs? The same jacobs who actually landed more power punches than golovkin?

http://static.boxrec.com/5/57/2017-03-18_-_Gennady_Golovkin_vs._Daniel_Jacobs_(CompuBox_Punchstats).jpg

He couldnt decisively outbox the 5'8 70' reach canelo (his record is 0-1-1), the canelo who boxed circles around him in the first fight but he's going to outbox the 6'1 78' reach hearns who is faster, more skilled, and hits harder than canelo?

I just want to make sure im not putting words in your mouth.

 

Hearns by UD.

Golovkin is a myth.

 

BCS8: "But, but, "

lol

Just messing with BCS8 and his infatuation with Golovkin.

 

Cool, share! Lol at Mills digging deep to seperate them and try to get Tommy to let go. That was a good find

 

He was at his top at 154 and should have stayed there much longer and built a serious legacy as a champ and not just an explosive , super brave and exciting but flawed fighter when fighting the best of the best ..

 

The fight with Kinchen was at SMW, yes, but with the same day weigh-in, wasn't it? Which is about the same as MW with the day before weigh-in. I don't think Kinchen was heavier than GGG typically is in the ring.

And if Hearns was past prime for Barkley and Kinchen... Maybe the weight jumping had sapped him of strength, he certainly didn't look strong against Kinchen. But his punching and combos were as crisp and precise as ever I think, at least against Barkley.

The thing is, it's hard to know with Hearns, since he seemed vulnerable every time he was pushed by a strong opponent above 154. But no fight of his gives me confidence that he could deal with GGG:s strength and power and overall package.

 

He's had a very long amateur career. He's as old as sticks right now and he's slowed. I might say that he looks physically stronger than before but frankly as a boxer I'd rather have the speed. Can't see how Hearns gets a pass for fading but GGG is prime even if he's older than Hearns was.

 

Hearns would hit him clean. If guys didn't have good defense it was trouble against Hearns.

 

I think GGG's power is overrated. My argument is not complicated. I remember when Ray fought Lalonde. Everyone said he would blast Hearns out and he did not. He didn't even knock him down, and he hit him on the break. And Ray will find the punches to land and didn't hurt Hearns. Hearns chin is not as weak as people seem to think. The guys who put him down could really hit. I think he had such a great jab and right hand and left to the body, I don't think GGG would take too many of Hearns punches. I don't think GGG would land as much on Hearns as people think. I think Hearns would have to use his jab and land the right and fight a smart fight, but I think he wins for sure. Especially the Hearns of 1985 who fought Hagler. I think he stops GGG. Absolutely.

 

It's evidence that Golovkin fights like a pressure fighter. They're not the only ones that say that. There are tons of other fighters that remark on Golovkin's ability to stay in your face and force you to engage at his range. That it's tiring fighting him because he simply doesn't give you a rest. I could post more but you'll simply claim they all don't know what they're talking about. So I'm not going to bother.

I'm saying that he could absolutely do that given the fact that a D level fighter like Barkley managed to give him hell everytime they fought. I'm saying that, since a nobody like Kinchen would probably have knocked Hearns out too, had he not outrageously hung onto him like a teen girl hangs off of Justin Beiber.

The same Jacobs that is bigger and stronger than Hearns, who skipped a weigh in ensuring that his weight advantage over GGG was compounded and who - oh, yeah - got knocked onto his ass by Golovkin anyway. Yeah, that Jacobs, the guy that got pressured all night and outlanded by GGG.

Canelo is an entirely different kettle of fish to Hearns, and builds his game off of being elusive and of counterpunching. Hearns has nowhere near Canelo's ability to avoid punches.

I can't help but feel that you're running on empty right now. Canelo got outlanded and chased all over the ring.

Yes, absolutely.

Furthermore your summation of Canelo is incorrect. While I have a lot of things to say about that little ginger biscuit Canelo, his diva ways, his slimeball manager and his PED abuse - Canelo's skills are no way in question. Canelo would give Hearns all he could handle, too.

 

Golovkin has good defence. Did you not watch the video?

Here's another:

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Ray didn't hurt Hearns in the rematch? We will have to disagree about that.

I think Golovkin hit harder than SRL. I think he hit as hard or harder than anyone Hearns faced at MW or SMW. And I think he was physically stronger than anyone Hearns faced at these weights, bar possibly Barkley. Grabbing on to GGG while hurt would be a wholly different thing than to grabbing on to Leonard or Kinchen. GGG seem to have some pretty freakish strength for his size.

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