Gennady Golovkin vs Thomas Hearns

That isn’t true about 90%. If you take both fights together, I believe the majority had it 1-1 or 1-0-1 for GGG but good luck generating those stats. Singularly, I think the majority had GGG winning either fight.

I agree with the official verdicts and don’t even understand why most didn’t see Canelo edging the rematch.

 

Sure ... except that Golovkin's amateur record is 345-8. That's a LOT of mileage.

 

So you agree with a 118-110 scorecard and the judge being told she will be "taking a break" from scoring big fights?? You know as well as I do that the GBP venue stunk up the joint …. Fair enough if you think Canelo won the fight

 

Fair point

 

Golovkin landed more punches and the second time he landed the harder, more devastating punches. Canelo had more "power punches", yeah - but the majority of those were to the body and its safe to say that his body attack wasn't particularly effective given that it was GGG that was turning up the heat in the late rounds which is when a body attack should be paying dividends.

 

I am surprised no one is mentioning the GGG uppercuts .. They were the best shots in the fight for me

 

I think I am about done with this thread. The arguments are in the main high quality ones (from both sides) and I can't really think of anything new to be added from either perspective. I'll just add that while I think Golovkin's toughness is what wins it for him against Hearns, I don't see him walking through him by any means. I don't write a guy like Hearns off against GGG, and anybody who says Hearns has NO chance against anybody near his weight simply doesn't know what he's talking about. Yes, and that includes vs Hagler.

 

But that's the thing. I thought that the punches he landed in the rematch were in the main much better than he landed in the first fight. What really hurt Golovkin was the whole "Mexican Style" angle he was pushing, and then when he boxed as he always does against Canelo people viewed it as a big fail. I'm very confident that if you took that fight and viewed it in a vacuum, without any prior knowledge of who the fighters were and what the backstory was, that it's pretty clear that Golovkin won it. I'm happy that there's a third fight but unfortunately GGG is looking slower and slower; I suspect that if Canelo gets his conditioning right he could win it clear cut and without controversy. Canelo's skills and durability have really impressed me.

 

GGG never landed the cleaner punches. That was Canelo’s game. And Canelo was the ring general in the second fight. “Core” fans just wanted GGG to win.

 

I didn’t score either 1180-110. Teddy Atlas was just as ridiculous but there’s a reason why he isn’t a judge.

 

I see your point, but Hearns sometimes liked to go for broke, and at that time in 1988 he was going up and down in weight and waiting for Hagler and Leonard to maybe fight him again. That is an excuses also I guess, but it is true. He really was not set at a certain weight, which would have helped him gauge his strengths and weaknesses at those weights. As for GGG. Age and wear is relative to the tough fights a fighter has had. I think. He is how old now? Everything you say here are excusing him which is fine but the first is. GGG is old, Canelo was on PEDs, Jacobs rehydrated. There was not a problem with GGG when he was scheduled to fight these guys, when he did not look great then these excuses came up. Maybe the reason he did not look good was Jacobs and Canelo. They are good fighters. Obviously better than the other guys he fought.

 

GGG abandoned bodywork in both canelo fights because of canelo's sharp counters.

He was very cautious against Lemieux and Jacobs also.

Sure, in Our minds eye we could easily picture golovkin breaking down and stopping hearts , but the way golovkin fights when his opponent brings firepower to the table, is a style that won't let him beat hearns.

He's not going to outjab Tommy and hes not going to beat him by being cautious. He's going to beat him by bulldozing and that's simplY not what GGG chooses to do against someone with firepower.

 

Really? I'd love to see that put to the vote.

 

No he can't, he's too slow, too short and not as good a boxer

 

I pick GGG

Can anyone who picks Hearns explain why ?

Hearns was chinny at middleweight and GGG has an iron chin along with being a pressure fighting power puncher than has good footwork for cutting off the ring. This does not bode well for Hearns

Maybe Hearns hits hard enough to make GGG less agressive than normal but i doubt it stays like this for all 12 rounds and Gennady will land a bomb sooner or later