Gennady Golovkin will smash Hopkins title defenses record at MW

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  1. The Akbar One

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    The Robert Allen from the first two Hopkins fights was a top level contender. He would absolutely own all of Golovkin's opponents, and likely light Golovkin up as well. Armed and Dangerous was no joke. If you had actually seen the guy fight when he was in his prime you would know better then to put his name and bum in the same sentence.
     
  2. Rico Spadafora

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    He was an average fighter. Noting more. Hopkins 20 defenses are littered with mediocre to average fighters. Stop with the double standards.
     
  3. The Akbar One

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    Average my ****. An average fighter doesn't make a young Hopkins think twice about finishing a fight. Allen would absolutely embarrass guys like Geale, Macklin, and Murray. Howard Eastman would beat all of them also, as would Glen Johnson, Trinidad, and several other of the guys on Hopkins resume.
     
  4. Rico Spadafora

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    Complete revisionist history trying to prop Hopkins up. He was widely criticized for his Middleweight competition.
     
  5. mrkoolkevin

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    Why the hyperbole? You have no basis for saying that Allen would do that to Macklin, Geale, or Murray. What were his best wins?

     
  6. Rico Spadafora

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    And GGG would beat Trinidad into a coma. It would be savage.
     
  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Yeah, it's strange that Hopkins and even Hagler get universal credit for feasting on inferior competition and small guys who eventually made their way up to middleweight, while Golovkin's critics attack him for not fighting super-middles and light-heavies.


     
  8. The Akbar One

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    By people on the Eastside boxing forum, who attempt to revise history. The Fact is that guys like Allen, Echols, Holmes, Trinidad, Johnson, etc. when Hopkins fought them, would beat the **** out of all of Golovkin's opposition, not to mention Golovkin wouldn't have an 0 left on his record if he was fighting the same guys that Hopkins fought. Somebody who is getting cut up by 154 pound Gabe Rosado, isn't beating a young Robert Allen. A guy who is getting repeatedly pieced up by an old shopworn Kassim Ouma isn't beat, Allen either.

    Allen, Eastman, Echols, Holmes, Trinidad, Johnson, Jackson, etc. would **** on guys like Geale, Macklin, Murray, etc. What year in the 90s would Macklin, Murray, or Geale be considered one of the ten best middleweights? Those guys struggle and have close fights with old Felix Sturm. Prime Sturm was ****ped on by old ass Castillejo, the Spaniard. He wasn't that good either. It's amazing how some people try to prop up today's weak **** middleweight division as a way to proop up Golovkin.
     
  9. The Akbar One

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    Hopkins fought good smaller men who moved up. Jackson wasn't garbage, Trinidad wasn't garbage. On the other hand, getting cut up by Gabe Rosado, and getting pieced up by old ass shopworn Kassim Ouma, two mediocre smaller men, seems to get you props in todays soft ass middleweight landscape.
     
  10. mrkoolkevin

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    Yeah, guys like Howard Eastman and John David Johnson were absolute monsters. BTW, I dare you to try to name their best wins.


     
  11. mrkoolkevin

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    Styles make fights and Golovkin takes more punishment than necessary because he tries to knock people out. His critics put way too much stock in 1-2 of his fights. No way he loses rounds to Howard Eastman or ends up trailing a plump, blown-up DLH half way through their fight. It is what it is.

    He would have blasted most of Hopkins opponents more decisively than Bernard did, imo. Doesn't make him better, but styles make fights.


     
  12. mrkoolkevin

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    I agree.