Genuine video: Steven Seagal training Anderson Silva

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  1. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlQw9fJ9CKk&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
     
  2. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I saw this earlier today. An...interesting video, I suppose.

    I wonder what Anderson was thinking while all that "teaching" was going on.

    I think what he's doing is sifting through all the garbage that Aikido and picking out the rare thing that'll work with everything else he's learned from every other martial art he's studied.
     
  3. LHL

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    :rofl i loved the bit at the end Silva says "Thank you coach" Then Seagal says "no no no!" I was expecting something complimentary but he says "Call me Sensei "

    Interesting video like James says half the things there won't work or shouldn't work in a mma fight but there will be something that will.
     
  4. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, it's not that they wouldn't work, in the sense that people generally think, but it's just relatively ineffective.

    Everything, well, most everything, in the martial arts realm works. But, clearly, there are some things that are far more effective then other things.

    Take boxing for example. Boxing by itself is HUGELY effective in a "real world" situation. Enormously effective for varying reasons. However, is it the most effective? No. But it's more then enough by itself for a good majority of situations. But if you want to prepare for as many potential situations as possible you learn everything and then discard what isn't as effective. That's the essence of MMA. We take what is good from "x martial art," tweak it to work well with what we learned form "y martial art" which also works in combination with this if that happens, and so on and so on and you throw out everything that is superfluous. (And there's alot of that)
     
  5. chimba

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    Steven Seagal is one of the few real thing in MA /Movies. I trained under Tenshin. I met his son Kentaro. This man was the first "White" guy who opened a dojo in Japan. And brushed off threats from the Yakusa.

    He is also exceptional in Kali. And I know he is an expert firearms guy. I trained small firearms with Kent turnipseed in AZ and they had all the respect for Steve.

    Thats why he is a confident guy able to stand and give instruction the one of the worlds best MMA fighters.
     
  6. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Aikido will work very well against average joe's. It would fail against your GSP's of the world.

    Anderson wants to be versatile but fancy so I'm sure he'll try to pick up what works and what doesn't.

    The general principle of Aikido I agree with. Using one's energy against themself makes sense. As soon as a move passes two or three steps it can be hard to execute. That's the issue with alot of Aikido moves; they are prolonged and exaggerated techniques with willing opponents.

    Every sport has it's effective skills. The birth of MMA found out what those were i.e. hands up, head punching with 6 core punches, wrestling, bjj etc However the next stage of MMA is evolving with body punches, versatile leg strikes, karate, TKD, more Judo and maybe we'll some effective moves taken from Aikido.
     
  7. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    In the lawman they showed his skills with firearms. Impressive.
     
  8. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    :lol::rofl I havent watched that show..Seagal has sunk very low.but surprisingly my former officemate gave a call and told me about it and how badass Steve was. I was like really?? :lol:

    BTW the principles of Aiki that you mentioned is the same as Judo, JJ..these things are all part of Budo and it just started branching out
    to diff schools
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    It's a common principle of many martial arts. Even in something like boxing it's a common principle however I find it is preached in pretty much every technique of Aikido.

    Lawman was a bit funny but it looked alright. Seagal brushed off Van Damme as any sort of threat. That gave me jokes.
     
  10. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Van Damme is a ******** but Id rather hang out with him all day. What I heard of seagal, he is a real piece of
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    in real life..

    In a fight though, Seagal is a huge guy, his hands are massive as well, fast as a cat in his prime.
     
  11. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nice video. i like watching steven seagal movie cuz of the way he fights.
     
  12. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    And thats because of the teachings of Ueshiba was somewhat misconstrued. People branched out to this "philosophy" side of fighting which is bs. Steve and his guys wanted to keep it a fighting art. I remember when we were watching videos of Steve would laugh at these old teachers in Japan. He was very arrogant and disrespectful at times.

    I remembered when he was asked about Norris, his reply was, "yeah hes gotten better":lol: I studied under James Berkleys Tenshin Aikido (which simply implies from the Tenshin Dojo in Japan) for over 10 years ever since I saw Above the law.

    Ive pretty much met everyone (Craig Dunn, Matsuoka) Seagal had about 4 original Black Belts from Japan.
     
  13. AmericanSugar

    AmericanSugar Active Member Full Member

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    martial arts and combat sports are opposite sides of the fighting spectrum. the philosophy of martial arts is lacking in actual combat sports, most guys lack perspective. but at the same time martial arts lacks application, most guys straight up don't have the experience and the ability to relax.
     
  14. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I find it interesting that a guy like Anderson seemed genuwine when it came to actually LISTENING and RESPECTING Segals expertise in this ONE area of Martial Arts. Sure MOST of what Steve was showing Anderson WOULD NOT work in the cage or Ring with MMA's Rules, but with regards to the average "REAL LIFE" situation that he encounters as a cop....I'm sure that **** works EXTREMLEY well. IF you are confident and able to instinctually adapt to real situations.