Geoge Foreman v. Larry Holmes(1977)

George's best punches in his prime were booming uppercuts and less than straight right hands. I don't see him reaching Prime Holmes with that punch. To ko prime Holmes you needed to have great speed and accuracy and the ability to punch around that jab. Holmes would do more damage than a young but I believe George lasts the distance over 12 rounds. Holmes but lopsided decision.

 

1977 Larry should be mature enough to keep away from George, and he would tire out, and Holmes could therefore win a decision.
He was also good enough at recovering to probably survive a few scares.
My money would be on Holmes, unless he had a huge brain fart in the first few rounds and got caught.

 

Brilliant logic. Because Foreman got tired in one bout that means he would get tired in every bout right? Based on that logic since Ali struggled with 180 pound Doug Jones and most people at ring side think he lost so every 180 pound fighter would beat Ali right? Tyson got knocked out by club fighter Buster Douglas so that means every club fighter could knock him out.

Foreman called out Holmes doing that time. Holmes didn't want any part of him. I think Larry knows his skill set and who he can beat more than some clueless people on a stupid boxing forum.

Foreman by knockout like he did Norton.

 

Foreman became exhausted in every bout where he was pushed hard long distance. Ali, Peralta, Young are examples. Prime Foreman's lack of stamina is a fact known by everyone who lived through that era. That does not include you.

 

Toss a coin, just like matching them peak, and possibly even in old age.

 

For once, I agree with Perry. Foremans stamina issue were always revealed over a longer distance.

Despite that, are we going to ignore how terribly Foreman performed against Young stamina issue aside? There's no way THAT version of Foreman beats Holmes. Even the 77 rendition.

 

One of the harder fights to call.
The OP is correct in stating that this is the time when the fight most likely could've taken place.
Its a match up to split opinion.
Foreman early is the only way he wins,i guess.
If not, its Holmes by any one of a variety of scenarios. UD would be my favourite ahead of late stopage.
If my life was on it, i select Holmes.Im 75% confident.
If Foreman struggled with Lyle and couldnt take out Young, i can't have him to beat Holmes.
All logic as i see it says Larry.

 

hard fight to pick, i can see it going either way if Larry is extremely careful he may be able to outbox George but Foreman had the right hand (Holmes Kryptonite) so George could end it quick or before 5 or Holmes can fatigue a young George if he can take him deep but remember Holmes did not have the Ali punch resistance especially right hands...the left hook was Ali's weakness

 

The version of Foreman that Young is not a very good Foreman. He'd have been knocked out by Ali and Holmes. He'd have been beaten on point by Walcott, Byrd and Johnson. Maybe Tunney and Charles as well.

He just wasn't very good that night.

He gets dominated and stopped by Holmes that night.

 

Here's the good oil folks - Foreman was actively working on slowing down and conserving stamina post Ali with a view to the Ali rematch.

Controversial but hugely relevant opinion - Pre Ali Foreman stops Young. He had him gone in a mid round but lacked the energy to finish him. I also truly believe he would have overwhelmed Lyle without the gruelling drama that unfolded pre Ali.

Remember - You heard it here first folks

 

Say Holmes faces Foreman instead of Shavers and Foreman faces Holmes instead of Young. I feel pretty confident in picking Holmes here. Foreman might have hurt him, as Shavers indeed did, but Larry was damn hard to finish off.

 

No you heard it from me. Clancy was working to slow down Georges pace so he could perform long term.

 

I've been saying it in here well before i even knew you existed bud

Jesus Christ.

 

The "good oil" was my opinion of matches vs Young and Lyle pre Ali.