Geographically Inherent Stylists

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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Does that title make sense? I don't know, I'm zonked at the moment.

    Anyway, what are your favourite examples of, or any examples, of styles or traits predominantly associated with one nation's boxers.

    Panama have the smooth, relaxed boxer types. Alfonso Lopez, Ismael Laguna, Ernesto Marcel, Eusebio Pedroza, Hilario Zapata all share a similar look in their slips and counters. Someone with more technical nous might be able to articulate it better than I, I hope so.

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    Argentina would be mainly associated with short, bullish weavers. Locche, Perez, Laciar, even Roldan nicked some of that swag. If you like Monzon, you might like Victor Echegaray.

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    There was a time when South Korea produced a load of feint-heavy multi-faceted offensive Duran-esque machines. Okay, only a few that good but when I think Korean boxing I don't think that (admittedly fun) slugger Kim whatever that's on Friday Night Fights nowadays.

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  2. Slickstar

    Slickstar Crisp This Full Member

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    modern day Argentinians love their overhands
     
  3. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's a generalization in America of a 'European' style.

    High guard with a tall posture, solid fundamentals mostly relying on a jab and cross.

    It could be localized to eastern Europe perhaps.
     
  4. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Mexican fighters tend to be very well-schooled offensively, with top punch variety and just generally solid textbook fighters.

    Never understood the mexican fighters have two left feet thing.
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Cubans tend to be highly crafted, well-balanced amateur groomed types, almost always enjoyable to watch. Northern Mexicans are blood and guts types, huge body punchers. DF types tend to be a bit more boxer-puncher but still need to please the audience. Maybe that's just my impression.
     
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  6. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it's easier to ay there's a distinct "Panama style" as it's a country about the size of many American back yards. South Korea to a lesser extent, too. Smaller countries can concentrate an ethos and attitude. A far-flung, spread out place like America couldn't.


    Mexico is an interesting case, of course, though I don't know if they have a specific style either.
     
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  7. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've mentioned this before too, namely with West Coast fighters vs East Coast fighters.

    I noticed an amazing similarity between Moore, Burley and Lloyd Marshall and as the Murderers Row was out of favour in Boxings Mecca, NY, many went west for fights and campaigned there for long spells. I wondered if they're styles (RJJr ish) was picked up out west?
     
  8. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    No, i wouldn't say Mexico has a specific style, just certain traits they always seem to develop well in their fighters, no matter the region they come from.There is plenty of variety in the end though.

    Britain tends to produce fighters that are lacking fundamentally now imo.Most of the better ones are unorthodox fighters that tend to rely on strong physical attributes.
     
  9. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Right, for Mexico, I see two types really.

    The more boxing orientated tidy offensive types. Chava, Davila, Lopez, JMM (the last two obviously looking nigh on identical stylistically but as lora pointed out that aside there's no specific style here, more just an easy way of bracketing them)

    And then your well schooled primarily offensive types. Chavez, Zarate, Raton, Olivares.

    I'll leave Margarito out. Every country has their marauders.

    Some solid posts all round on that front gents. Seamus especially, interesting hypothesis.

    With the Thai's you get the Ali-wannabe's as well as the straight on solid offensive types.
     
  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Mexico has a variety of styles, a lot which overlap. I think some generalizations can be made. The guys from DF seem to have a smoother boxing style, like Barerra, Finito Lopez and Miguel Angel Gonzalez. The guys from Sinaloa or Tijuana seem a little more like gunfighters, Ramirez, Morales... even early Chavez to an extent. It's a generalization, and one that's usually a bit less applicable to these top-level guys than the run-of-the-mill guys.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Good point. I'm kinda' hoping lora will wax lyrical about the similarities you see, especially the way they slip punches in close and throw that almost underarm of an uppercut they like to counter with.

    Again, I'm not eloquent enough to put the more technical things down. lora will know what I mean I'm sure.

    It's like they're the apex of what Dominican imposter Eleoncio Mercedes was trying to do.
     
  12. Flea Man

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    I think they can be divided like that too, and yes there is overlap but not enough that there's an aesthetically carbon copy style floating around.

    Again, Nacho's lads share very similar traits, but that's more a gym thing. I wouldn't say Wincobank fighters are indicative of British fighters. We're known for your gung-ho aggressors like a Ted Lewis or Ricky Hatton, but I think we've had a fair few pure boxers of talent, Winstone, Conteh, Buchanan, Driscoll, Welsh, but they don't look all that similar.

    EDIT: Further to Salsanchezfan's post, Panama is bloody small. I'm still pretty sure it's bigger than Sheffield :D
     
  13. Lester1583

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    High guard of Ghana fighters - Azumah, Clottey, Quartey.
     
  14. Flea Man

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    Nice work :good

    Nana as well :D

    In fact there's no need to limit this to country. Cities or districts of countries, or a lot of fighters from the same gym lookingvery similar are fair game.
     
  15. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    Ricardo Lopez / JMM