George Chuvalo - how good was he?

Quite obviously, it's on film, not at boxrec. Regardless of the decision of the referee not to count it, Chuvalo was down from punches, not just slips or loss of balance alone.

 

I have a photo of this in an old Ring magazine somewhere, Chuvalo is in a squatting/sitting position ,on the lower rope,I dont know if he subsequently went down as the report does not say,but would assume he didnt.

 

Chauvalo was a tough guy. A durable guy. But he was not fast, tall, quick with his hands or feet, or skilled. A bit of a plodder, and his power was only better than average. And his power was mostly to the body.

I think Chauvalo's stock is inflated as a loser because of who he fought. Sure, he fought Frazier, Ali, and Patterson, Foreman, but he was outclassed by these guys.

In fact, he was beaten by good tier two guys such as Bonevenna, Ellis, Terrell, and Mathis.

His best wins were over Quarry ( Quarry mis-timed the count ) Doug Jones, and DeJohn.

Much is said about the quality of the heavyweight division today, but I’m not sure if Chavalo would make the cut as a regular top 10 guy. Maybe spots 7-10, just because he'd show up in good shape.

My favorite thing about Chavalo is he is pretty good on tv, and still has his marbles.

In a way, he the the voice of the 60's and 70's fighters who have either passed, or can not speak well enough for tv interviews.

 

miss timed the count hahahahahaha classic ,brilliant-CRAP

 

The report said that he may have slipped and Bonavena claimed that he knocked him down. Juan Roldan often takes credit as the only man to ever knockdown Hagler, but to the this day there are many who call the incident a slip.
Personally, I think Senya is really scraping the bottom of the barrel for an argument. I said that he was never knocked down in 93 fights and he claimed that it was "common knowledge " that he had. He comes up with one example in 93 matches that wasn't even ruled as a knockdown.

 

Yeah, I think we can all agree that Chuvalo was very hard to knock down/out and that he stayed near the top for a very long time, without nitpicking over exact details.

 

well said

 

It doesn't need to be on a photo, when it can be seen on the film. Yeah, Chuvalo partially lost balance, but he didn't go down because of that, he was put down by a punch. Common knowledge for anybody who has watched the film. If a fighter goes down from a legal punch, it is a knockdown, plain and simple. Just because the referee blew the call, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

 

Senya, give it a rest already.....

 

chuvalo was never down in 93 fights as a pro nor down in training or even as an amature, thats a fact this senya guys got problems man hes an *******.

 

Regardless of what Senya says or has said, he is right that Chuvalo in fact got knocked down twice by Bonavena, even if neither officially was ruled one nor was he really hurt; he got hit by a good punch and went down. This is on film to see. It used to be on YouTube, but unfortunately it got removed.


On a sidenote, i believe there was talk of a Chuvalo vs Shavers bout. I would've liked to see that one, i'd favor the Canadian there and it would be one of his best wins.

 

Good point, I too believe that George had the perfect style to beat Earnie ( that would be a good fight to bet because G.C. would be the underdog I feel strong that Chuvalo could beat Shavers...late stop 8-12

 

bonavena pushed chuvalo thats why the referee never called it a knockdown,i was around during this fight i don't belirve some of you were even born then.bonavena was a hotdog chuvalo called him a dog.watch the fight he ran from chuvalo he said hewas going to stand up to him.i think senya that chris guy are reaching here a little

 

The fact that it was bad refereeing doesn't reverse the ruling, just as poor judging doesn't change a verdict. Frankly, it certainly appeared as though Corrie Sanders handed Vitali klitschko his first career knockdown, but it was ruled as a slip. Therefore, its a slip........

 

The difference is that Sanders missed a punch (straight power left), then put his right hand behind his head and shoved him down.

Oscar landed a flush left hook on the chin while Chuvalo was throwing a shot himself... those are often the ones that result in a KD, and he went down right after.

It's correct to say that Chuvalo never suffered and official knockdown, but when you see said fight, you'll find that he was indeed down twice, even if he was not hurt. If Sanders landed a punch before Klitschko went down, but it wasn't ruled a knockdown for whatever reason, i'd be happy to admit he got knocked down. But we have a brain for ourselfs and can see what happened. Chuvalo got knocked down.