George Chuvalo vs. Jerry Quarry: Was it a fix?

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  1. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just out of curiosity, what fights did Clayton referee that were questionable?
     
  2. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Just off the top of my head: Not refereeing but judging his card for Benitez-Palomino was an absolute joke and his excuse “the sun was in my eyes” made a lot of people chuckle. Ive seen some question his refereeing job on both Griffith-Hayward 1 and Rodriguez-Briscoe 1. Griffith-Hayward 1 was close but clear for Hayward in my opinion. Hayward dominated the first half of the fight and landed some hellacious shots. The really odd thing about Clayton here that stands out is his score for the final round which he had even though Griffith was coming on like a freight train. He had the right guy winning but his card is so weird. Ive seen some criticize him for breaking the fighters too quickly in Rodriguez-Briscoe 1. This to me is more of a preference than an outright example of favoritism. He broke them up quick, true, but I like a ref who keeps the action flowing and fluid so... guys who like Briscoe are going to complain that it upset his chances (because he wasnt competetive at long range) others wont mind and just say thems the breaks.
     
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  3. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Liston/Martin a fix ! judging by the right hand Martin hit Sonny with NO! I would say there are easier ways to fix a fight from Sonnys perspective. keep well.
     
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  4. Mike Cannon

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    William, how come you are up at 3-20am ( UK time )
     
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  5. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I work a night shift.
     
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  6. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    December 1969 was interesting. First we had Martin upset Liston. Six days later we had Chuvalo upset Quarry. A week after that, the Ellis-Peralta bout was cancelled on less than 24 hours notice. Later in the month we finally have Frazier vs. Ellis signed and scheduled. Then at the end of the month we have Chuvalo pulling out of a scheduled February 16th (Frazier-Ellis undercard) rematch with Quarry.
     
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  7. ronnyrains

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    ZACK CLAYTON DID A TERRIBLE JOB, NOT GONNA STAND FOR ANY HOLDING AND HITTING, GOODNESS THATS A LAUGH, AND THATS ALL CHUVALO DID!
     
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  8. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unfortunately it wasn’t a fix. My trainer was one of Quarry’s main sparring partners for the first 3 years of Quarry’s career and said Quarry despite having elite talent had a bad habit of tuning in and out midfight, which cost him in some of his important fights. My trainer attributed this to Quarry not always getting the optimal amount of sleep due to partying.
     
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  9. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :rolleyes: Said the guy who wears Jerry Quarry pajamas to bed.
     
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  10. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    Jerry was not partying when he was training.
     
  11. ronnyrains

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    Ellis had 3 title fights nixed in 1969, I wonder why he just did not go ahead and fight Billy Joiner after he upset Bob Cleroux (Cleroux was signed to Fite Ellis, and took Joiner on as a "warmup"). Joiner attained a #10 ranking

    Like Randy Neumann 1973 (example) had he upset Quarry, he would have been contracted to fite Ron Lyle.
     
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  12. Richard M Murrieta

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    I know that the two of three fights that were nixed in 1969 was Ellis defending his title against Gregorio Peralta and against Henry Cooper.
     
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  13. CharlesBurley

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    I've knocked someone out in the same way. You hit the temple and the brain bounces from 1 side of the skull to the other. It's delayed after the punch
     
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  14. ronnyrains

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    Foreman's corner was not thrilled with Ali's holding pushing head down antics in Zaire (Clayton Referee) People who think he did an excellant job QUARRY-CHUVALO. Need just watch George foul, Quarry "Irish up" retaliated a few times. I mean George was holding and whaling!

    I guess one judge counted those fouls as points had it 3-3!
    other judge and Clayton (4-1-1 Quarry).
    Both fighter's earned their pay in this one. It was an action packed heavyweight fite!
     
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  15. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ya, George was a mean rabbit puncher. He got some good whallops in on Ali and Patterson. I was watching the Floyd fight the other day and at one point Floyd almost had his back to Chuvalo, but they were still clinched, and Chuvalo got in one whallop after another. Chuvalo couldn't do that with Terrell tho, another great rabbit puncher.
     
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