George Chuvalo Vs Paolino Uzcudun

I would pick Uzcudun because he beat the better opposition on the whole. He was not consistent however and it would come as no surprize if Chuvalo beat him.

Uzcudun beat

HarryWills (faded)
Max Baer (green)
Schmeling (draw, should have been a loss for Uzcudun)
Jack Renault
Tom Heeney

Plus a handfull of largley forgotten ranked contenders.

 

I would go with Uzcudun as well. Both of these fighers had iron
chins. Uzcudun fought and beat Max Baer by decision over twenty
rounds. Uzcudun employed a cross-armed defense and did well
against walkin sluggers like Chuvalo.

A close fight with Uzcudun the winner by decision.

 

Agreed. Uzcudun was a bit faster, and more active. I think he wins the decsion in a fight that has war written all over it.

 

Uzcudun was heavier, probably stronger, and could win over 20 rounds. Chuvalo didn't have the firepower to ring Paulino's bell. By the match's conclusion, there would be no question who had the decision sewed up.

 

stronger?chuvalo at 69 benches over 425 man

 

Uzcudun HEAVIER?????? What are you talking about. He fought around 200 pounds. Don´t accept that crap that he was 229,5 against Carnera in their second fight. Watch the fight films, Uzcudum was about the same size in both fights. The heavyer weight was just make up!!!
Woller

 

Janitor wrote it yet. Paolino beat way better fighters and during his prime he was pretty consistent. Uzcudun had the chin and the skills to outbrawl Chuvalo to a pretty close UD.


Uzcudun UD 15 Chuvalo


(8-6-1)

 

Cant improve on this Janitor!

 

The Guinness Book of World Records recorded that higher weight as what he carried for his title shot, and they also clarified that Carnera was indeed a fraction of an inch taller than Willard, so I've always been inclined to accept the number they provided. On page 123 of my 1957 copy of The Ring Record Book, Uzcudun's weight is recorded as 229-1/4 for his title shot against Carnera. Primo's weight bounced up ten pounds for his next defense against Loughran, and it's not unreasonable to suppose Paulino could have beefed himself up for the Carnera rematch. Also, their recorded combined weights set a record later broken by Lewis/Grant, and it's not likely such a historic mark would have been misreported at the time.

Bear in mind that Mike Spinks bulked up nearly 30 pounds for his challenge of Holmes, but did not look significantly different either, as slender as his build was. I will allow however, that if Uzcudun's weight was accurately registered for the Carnera rematch, it was above what he typically scaled. (Recall that Time Magazine described Uzcudun's sister Pauline as weighing 220 pounds.)

Regarding Uzcudun's strength, it should be remembered that he was a dedicated woodchopper from childhood, and in fact could not completely straighten out his left arm because of a woodcutting accident. Chopping wood tends to build enormous tensile strength, as well as tremendous muscular endurance, power of a kind that would be more functional in a boxing match than the sort of compartmentalized isolation required for a bench press, or most other bodybuilding movements.

Earnie Shavers grew up grasping and hoisting up bales of hay on a farm. This kind of leveraged full body effort was more beneficial for developing his punching strength than his experiments with weight training proved to be later on. Joe Frazier and Max Baer similarly lifted slabs of slaughterhouse meat in much the same manner. Frazier was hardly a weakling in the ring (except against the freakish Foreman), but in the Superstars Competition, he was only able to lift 170 pounds overhead. (I don't remember that too vividly though. Like everybody else, my main impression of Frazier in that affair was of Joe nearly drowning in the swimming pool. Apparently, Smoke and water don't mix very well:barf.)

A 425 pound bench press at age 69 is not necessarily a reflection of how strong Chuvalo might have been during his career, in that particular respect, but even if he possessed that degree of strength during his competitive years, it wouldn't have been as servicable over the duration of an extended match as the type Uzcudun had cultivated.

Uzcudun would have enjoyed the lower center of gravity, and been able to force Chuvalo backwards as Foreman was able to. Until Paulino's ill advised comeback against Joe Louis, only Schmeling had come close to knocking him out, in what may have been the peak performance of Max's career. Chuvalo would definitely need to win by decision. His best shot at doing so would have been to outjab Uzcudun from long range, utilizing his height and reach advantage (by virtue of being able to completely extend his left). In close, George would need to exploit Paulino's cross-armed defence with hooks downstairs.

Sure, it could definitely go either way, but I think Uzcudun generated the better resume.

 

Youse guys are kiddin, right?

Chuvalo wins, no contest. Uzcudun was tough, but Chuvalo was a beast in the ring, throwing punches almost non-stop for 10 or 15 rounds! Chuvalo is the bigger guy. That 229 pounds hanging off Paolino in the Carnera fight was suet. In shape, he weighs in around 200. Chuvalo is far & away the better skilled boxer. He could actually use a jab, and did against none other than Muhammad Ali. Uzcudun was pretty much a one trick pony with a better than average left hook.

At any distance, they probably both hear the last bell, but if the fight is held anywhere but Spain, Chuvalo wins hands down and likely splits up Uzcudun's face worse than Mickey Walker did!

 

No, they actually are right. You are not.

 

Harry Wills (washed up)
Max Baer (green one-armed fighter)
Schmeling (Uzcudun lucky to get a draw)
Renault (past his best, if that really was him fighting in Columbia)
Tom Heeney (limited fighter at best)

 

Wow! Hard to counter that argument! What insight! What a keen grasp of fundamentals!

Sheesh!:bbb

 

Uzcdun at his high water mark was ranked #3 by ring magazine, and was being talked about by some as an outstanding contender.

I have to say that Uzcdun was a notch higher for all his limitations.