George Foreman 1973 vs Mike Tyson 1988, 15 Rounds.

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  1. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mike was knocked out by Douglas, he got on his feet at the very end of the count, out on his feet. Mike was similarly done at the end of Lewis, he only got up because he knew the fight was being stopped. Maybe watch those endings again.

    Nobody said he didn't have heart, but once Mike went down, he was on his way to getting stopped. Every time.

    Frazier got up against Bonavena, twice, and beat him. Foreman got knocked silly and almost out by Lyle, then knocked the crap out of him.
     
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    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Watch this, it really is quite educational. Then watch Iron Mike fight in his prime. There are parallels, if you don't see them then you just don't want to see them. No offense.

     
  3. Shahpoor Saiq

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    I mean that he was up when he was counted out, not that he continued to fight and Frazier got knocked down by Bonavena twice at the beginning meanwhile Tyson got pounded on by a 6'3 230 lbs man for 10 rounds, he took combination after combination. Frazier got knocked down by single punches meanwhile Tyson getting knocked out was a result of a prolonged beating and multiple clean combinations to the face.

    Tyson was also not physically or mentally good condition for the Douglas fight yet he lasted 10 rounds and did you see the combination that landed on Tysons face? He took a massive uppercut to the face that he didn't see then he got hit by 3 hooks and finished by a cross.
     
  4. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    I beg to differ. Foreman isn't the much bigger than Tyson during his prime. He was taller, of course, and had Tyson's kryptonite: the uppercut. Powerful uppercuts. But Foreman's defense is poor meaning he doesn't move his head that much. Not good against someone as quick and fast like Tyson.

    What do you see Foreman doing to Tyson after pushing him back and setting up his range? I think Tyson could counter with vicious bombs. I think you have to tie Tyson up to stunt him and I've never seen Foreman tie a guy up.
     
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  5. Sangria

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    Welp, Douglas was 6'4" and 230 lbs. That's pretty damn big. And he showed he had power by knocking down Mike Williams with a single jab, twice.

    Holyfield had dropped Ray Mercer and Bowe with single left hooks. Those are 2 guys who never came close to hitting the deck. Besides, this version of Holyfield was huge...and let's not forget the headbutts!
     
  6. Jamal Perkins

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    In around 1988...joe frazier wrote a personalised column in ring magazine....talking about tyson being the champ...and how he told him one night they bumped into each other..." this job you got (hw champ) aint no joke u should be in bed resting...i dont know if he listened to me...from what i hear he didnt" ( this was the summer tyson had the dapper don fight at 4am,drove a car 70mph in a 30mph zone, engaged in the 24 hoes in a limo thing written about in jose torres"s book etc
     
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  7. William Walker

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    I'm not saying they couldn't hit, but considering this was an era with Bowe, McCall, Mercer, Moorer, Lewis, and Bruno, Holyfield and Douglas were some of the lightest heavyweight hitters of that era.
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

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    Foreman would catch Tyson coming in, and catch him HARD. When Foreman pushing Tyson off Foreman would be moving forward at him keeping him from coming forward near as much as he would like to. A stationary or backpeddling Tyson is a vulnerable one.
     
  9. Saad54

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    Tyson had much better defense and better handspeed than Frazier. Tyson slips the Foreman jab and gets home some nice shots. Foremans best chance for victory is if he can land the uppercut early. If he can hurt Mike early he can take him out. My guess is its an ugly affair. Tyson slips the jab and the two wrestle at close range. The ref has his hands full. Both tire but Foreman tires worse which affects his punch resistance. Around the 7th round a Tyson combination to Georges unprotected head leaves him out on his feet and the ref intervenes.
     
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    Old Foremans chin was better. He gassed very quickly in his first incarnation which left him susceptible to being hurt.
     
  11. William Walker

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    I agree. The stamina issue is the one thing that makes me uncertain of a Foreman victory. Plus old Foreman did not have the killer instinct either. He let some guys go that he could have knocked out. I'm confident that if Foreman hurts Tyson, he's his.
     
  12. Johnny_B

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    Completely agree
     
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    Well by many people he is favoured.
    Tyson fought a bit Frazier, except he was 3x faster and punched in combinations.
    Considering all the trouble Ali had with Frazier, and the fact he often had problems with left hooks, It's entirely possible Tyson beats beats him.
    I think prime Ali beats Frazier, and that Ali gets knocked down a couple of times v Mike, but gets up where most don't, and finds a way to win, sticking and moving in an ugly fight, over 15 especially.
    Post exile Ali has serious problems with 80's Tyson for sure.
     
  14. Sangria

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    I do agree with this. However, it's an intriguing match up with both guys being relentless. I just believe Tyson has more in his arsenal than Foreman.

    And I wish Tyson-Foreman went down in 1990-1991. Would've smashed records for sure.
     
  15. William Walker

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    I just had to tell you that you are the best die-hard Tyson fan out there.