There's been a couple of threads recently (one was mine...!) featuring prime fighters fighting older versions of themselves. How about this one..? Not as one sided as most think,is my take. Old George would frustrate the youngster for a while,covering up with a crossarmed defense,and maybe scoring a brief knockdown. After a while,though youth would be served as the young Foreman would start scoring with his heavy faster punches repeatedly on old George's head forcing the referee's intervention by round 6.
I would think that the younger george swarms in and ver power the older one. 74's speed would be the difference and he tees off as old George covers up. that's how I see it.
Not a nice matchup for old George and one he smartly would of avoided. He would get his head taken off by his younger self. His only chance would be to use his superior strength to tie him up and keep his head down to tire him out ala Ali and hopefully take over late in the fight.
The younger is much better version. However the older will have some advantages. The most important are knowledge about young Foreman weak points and the bigger experience in the ring.
George Foreman in 1974 could not even throw straight punches, or shorten his punches and make them tighter. George Foreman in 1991, was still **** at throwing straight punches...but abit better than 1974. He had abit if a jab, and thought about what he was doing more.
Young George would have won. I cant really think of any fighter as good as young George that old George was even competitive with. Young George might be classified as a bigger version of the Holyfield that old George faced. I just cant see old Foreman winning.
1974 George Foreman destroys his old fat self easily in 2 rounds or less. You got to be kidding me. A old slow stationary old man like foreman who got his face smashed by Alex Stewart would get killed by a prime murderous punching ATG like his 74 self. 1990's foreman is becoming almost as overrated as vitali klitschko
I think this was done not too long ago. I know I bring it up pretty often. Anyway, I'm going with 1991 Foreman by decision (116-112) or late round TKO. The younger Foreman had a little more snap on his punches and was busier in the early rounds. The older Foreman (before he got too old) was bigger, stronger, smarter, more patient, and paced himself better. Both versions had a great jab but the older Foreman knew how to control a fight with it more so than the younger Foreman. The Younger Foreman was down vs. Lyle and even Young. He was stopped by Ali. The older Foreman was never down although he fought less big name fighters during this time. It's a tough call but old Foreman ('88-'91) for me. The one who had beat Qawi in '88 then wrecked Bert Cooper, G. Cooney, and Adilson Rodrigues. The one who gave a prime Holyfield a very tough night and went on to fight a perfect fight vs. P. Coetzer before stopping him in 1993. Doesn't reach out and get your attention like KO2 Frazier and KO2 Norton but still, old Foreman!
He had an off night vs. Stewart. He overlooked him for sure but in all honesty the 2nd career of Foreman peaked vs. Holyfield and was on the decline right after. Sure, he beat the crap out of Coetzer and even went on to win the title vs. Moorer after looking bad vs. Morrison. I really feel that Foreman would have destroyed Stewart or Morrison had he fought them just a couple of years earlier. He looked decent vs. Savarese and Briggs but he no longer was a deadly finisher. A few years is a big deal once your 40. It didn't help that Foreman was all over the TV and not training properly after the Holyfield fight.
Its tuff to call, but I favor the 257 pound Foreman who challenged Holy to stop himself in 1974....... Foreman gets beat when he fights a superior technician with speed and savvy........ Foreman can handle dude's who come right in and wanna trade...... MR.BILL:thumbsup
I don't know if I'd call it a off night as opposed to a night where he refused to sit down on his stool so his corner could work on his face. You'd imagine that grotesque swelling hindered him throughout the fight, there was absolutely no reason that had to happen.
I have a difficult time envisioning 1974 Foreman winning in a situation where he'd be the only one forced to give ground. To have a chance, he'd also have to take out the mature version early. During both careers, he was almost wholly dependent on having a huge edge in physical strength. Comeback Foreman had far more muscle mass, as well as superior staying power and experience. (Beyond that, he was now training with weights.) He'd also had the experience of a training stint with Clancy, who taught him to shorten up his punches and box with more control. (This ultimately paid off when a short right put out Moorer.) The elder Foreman was able to stand up to far more punishment than the original championship edition, boxed patiently, and wasted few steps or punches. His younger counterpart would quickly expend and run out of energy (especially with excessive and unaccustomed use of his legs in being forced to retreat and move around, hardly ever getting a chance to plant himself). The kid clearly didn't have the defensive skill to avoid, or withstand the firepower of the wise veteran in a later round. When hurt, the sage campaigner tended to be aroused to a sense of urgency, as he was when Cooney and Lakusta clobbered him. When young George did get manhandled for the only time in Kinshasa, he suffered the only knockout loss of his career. Old George would physically maul, brutalize and shove back his wide open younger self in a way no other heavyweight champion ever could when in close quarters. At range, the elder Foreman's straight, stiff jab would neutralize or even bottle up the roundhouse swings of the wild youth. Young Foreman would somehow have to replicate what Morrison did, but George himself was ironically the architect of his defeat in that one, by virtue of the advice he gave Tommy after Mercer nearly destroyed him. 1974 Foreman would have neither the proper information, temperament or ability to carry out that plan successfully, but find himself at a loss for how to respond to an immovable object, and wind up exhausted from the expenditure of nervous energy.
I haven't looked at the similar threads but if the older version of the fighter has his own memories that is surely a huge advantage? He can look back at what he did wrong in the past and exploit it. And he would know what his opponent is going to try. Sorry to get all philosophical but I hope you see my point.