George Foreman 1990 vs Razor Ruddock 1990

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  1. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whataboutery is for other threads.The Briggs fight scoring was a disgrace.if the best excuse is ringside views are different ......than after 90+years of rip off scoring due to poor ringside views ...suspiciously by the same 3 blind household name judges...why hasnt any1 had the idea to just have these judges watch the fight on tv in a room without the commentary
     
  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Were you rooting for Foreman?
     
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  3. JohnThomas1

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    100% of people on eye on the ring disagreed with Briggs winning. Many scored it for Foreman by 4 points or more. Lederman and the AP had it for Foreman by 4 points which seems the most common score. It was a disgrace.
     
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  4. Jamal Perkins

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    No I've hated him ever since he poleaxed Gerry Cooney.

    That Gerry was hungry,sharp, and fearless......not the bloated bum who lay down for Spinks.
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I think you'd have to be a Foreman fan to praise Cooney like that.
     
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  6. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you're a Conspiracy theorist.
     
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  7. Glass City Cobra

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    So now instead of backing down, the narrative is that apparently every seemingly sensible person who witnessed an obvious robbery had to have been blinded by their irrational love of Foreman (including the government officials who were suspicious of a fix).

    That seems way more reasonable than NoNeck simply digging his heels in because he has an agenda. Because he watched the fight "once years ago with poor recording quality".
     
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  8. Bonecrusher

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    Ok this is as far as I’ve gotten so far on this thread. This is not accurate, NO those 3 men did not have Ruddock on the point of a knockout, are you able to spot the difference between being shook up and actually being on the brink of a KO?? :nusenuse: Weaver rocked him badly but Ruddock wasn’t close to being stopped, Smith knocked him sideways to which Ruddock got up laughing and turned the tables to hurt Smith in the same round and Dokes also wobbled him very briefly only to be rocked with Ruddock hooks to end the round seconds later. I don’t know why people feel the need to exaggerate to try and drive their point home. Foreman probably does beat Ruddock just say why, don’t rewrite what actually happened in the actual fights back then.
     
  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Please provide evidence of your judging credentials and the fix that took place. Why a fix would occur in favor of Briggs, who was hand picked, is anyone’s guess.
     
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  10. Glass City Cobra

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    Please provide evidence that I said a fix took place. I simply said that the fight was such an obvious robbery that US officials investigated it, which is a historical fact.

    And plenty of judges with credentials scored fights horribly. Do you think Canelo really deserved a draw with Mayweather on 1/3 of the scorecards?
     
  11. Bonecrusher

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    I know Marc Roberts was Briggs promoter and I remember him saying one time in the 90’s that his fighters wouldn’t lose a decision in New Jersey. Foreman clearly beat Briggs that night IMO.
     
  12. JohnThomas1

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    At the end of the day, at the very least, Hazzard put two quite inexperienced judges on the fight.
     
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  13. Glass City Cobra

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    Right. Not all judges are equally competent. Even if there wasn't a fix it was pretty clear they weren't the most fit to score a fight for such a big name boxer. I was under the impression that normally you bring judges along slowly just like fighters, have them judge nobodies/amateurs/etc then low ranked 4 rounders and slowly build up to championship caliber fights.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    Hazzard basically admitted that. It's not totally impossible that this concession was strategic. I'm not discounting anything.
     
  15. William Walker

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    Not true. W/ Dokes, ig you're right, he didn't have him ready 4 a knockout. I take that one back. But Smith really decked him hard and when Weaver hit him w/ that hook, Ruddock was staggering all of the ring like a drunken *******. Though he didn't go down in that fight, he was nearly knocked out on his feet.