George Foreman 1990 vs Razor Ruddock 1990

A pro Internet debater at his finest.......

We are talking old OLD O L D Foreman , you dig ?

Ruddock took out still prime Boncrusher in brutal fashion two years after his loss to Tyson and went undefeated against so so comp for 9 fights after, so he was not washed up or shot when Ruddock iced him., faded , perhaps but not shot, As his name suggests , Smith could crack really good, he was limited but hit hard.

Ruddock took on arguable the best heavy on the planet in Mike Tyson twice and lost x2...............nevertheless it is no shame to loose to Tyson and he made a gallant effort.

Foreman does not even have a Bonecrusher level Hitter on his winning record and now where near did he ever get close to a lights out puncher like Tyson..

Conclusion: Foreman never fought a TOP ranked HARD hitting opponent in his entire comeback or ANY dangerous HARD hitting Heavy , period.

For the slow witted like you....the discussion is about old OLD O L D Foreman.

 

Great summing up. Ruddock lost to heavy punchers. He didn't have much for foot speed. He wasn't much of a boxer, and didn't exactly have the world's best chin. How does he beat Foreman?

I'm asking without a trace of facetiousness, honestly curious.

 

Great quote from Larry.

 

The breakdown is that Foreman would get beaten half to death.

We’re talking about the Ring, not the WBA, chief.

 

I’m not stumbling. He beat zero top ten contenders according to the Ring.

 

Bingo.

Apparently Stewart/Saverese/Schulz/Grimsley are all better fighters then Ruddock......all went the distance with Grandpa Foreman......all never ranked even remotely high like Ruddock.............Stewart packed certified glass and still Foreman could not put him away instead he used his own face as target practice for Stewart

Pathetic, he struggled with the above total ham and eggers but he is going to "walk" Ruddock into his "big" shot and finishes him.....

 

George Foreman is a religion.

 

You know who was old? A 36 year old Bonecrusher Smith. Yet you consider that a "prime" fighter.

Smith was coming off of 2 losses and a draw before Ruddock beat him you imbecile! It would have taken you 2 minutes to google this!

Smith was not prime. Smith was not ranked. Smith was not undefeated.

You are in no position to question anyone's intelligence. Log out. You are easy work son.

 

That is not a "break down" at all. I could easily just write Foreman beats Ruddock to death. You wanna try applying to ESPN with those break down skills? I'm not asking for a long winded essay, but some sort of actual rationalization for how Ruddock wins the fight. You haven't explained jack for 8 pages.

You didn't say anything about the ring. Do the sanctioning body rankings not count because it's inconvenient? Rodrigues was ranked #2 and #3 in 2 different organizations when he lost to #1 contender Holyfield. There isn't anything strange about him remaining in the top 10 just 1 year later if he didn't lost to anyone else.

Let's say we ignore Rodrigues because it doesn't suit your agenda.

Foreman knocked out an undefeated prime unified champion. How many of those did Ruddock beat?

 

Just to mention also, Moorer went on to win the heavyweight title again, making him a two-time heavyweight champion.

A huge win for Foreman that imo is bulletproof.

It also bears saying that George went on to beat an ultimately two-time heavyweight champ in Briggs as well (now please, someone tell me he lost that fight).

Just me.

 

I guess Razor is gonna throw his left hookercut and Big George is gonna stand there with his hands down. That is the only scenario Ruddock has a shot. Even then Foreman could probably take it. Foreman's jab controls this and he puts Ruddock away when Razor drops his hands and telegraphs that left, from the outside no less.
Razor was tough, he would get up. He might go up and down more than an elevator. The ref would stop it when he gets tired of counting.

 

George didn't go down a single time in his comeback, even after a...what, 25 punch combination from Holyfield?!!

 

Smith also had Razor down.

 

I must have missed the rematch.

 

Right! Smith could crack, don't get me wrong. Took out Witherspoon in 1 in shocking upset, trailed on the score cards against Bruno and took him out as well. But that was all he had. Guy was so easy to outbox even the cruiserweight sized frail Marvis Frazier pulled it off. Smith was a big slow target, not hard to hit, wasn't hard to cut, didn't put combinations together that well. He was also 36 and coming off 2 losses yet Ruddock went life and death with him.

You can't make this stuff up if a guy like that can have Ruddock on the canvas struggling to pull off a miraculous come from behind KO, how exactly is he a league ahead of Foreman...???

Ruddock in his prime was a low B tier fighter at best and that's being generous. His power and guts are the only things you had to worry about. The fact he become a top contender while relying a telegraphed uppercut and neglecting 75% of the basic stuff they teach you in the gym is honestly a miracle.

Unless he catches Foreman off guard with multiple huge flush smashes to the jaw and the ref jumps in quickly to wave it off, he is not winning, period. Considering Foreman's titanium chin and tight cross arm guard...good luck with that! And you're smoking beer if you think he can win a decision.

Ruddock was another Cleveland Williams/Gerry Cooney. Big athletic guy who could hit like a wrecking ball but lacked durability, defense, and ring IQ. That was his level. Now that I think about it, Cooney actually had a very similar career.

-Cooney relied on his left side amd neglected his right.
-despite his height, neglected his jab and didn't fight tall with a tendency to fight aggressively on the front foot.
-would wobble all over the place when hurt.
-blazed a trail knocking out tomato cans with trademark scary punches (left hooks vs left smash).
-feasted on past it 30 year old ex contenders/champs (Young, Norton, Lyle vs Dokes, Smith, Weaver).
-when they both stepped up in class, they put up a gutsy memorable performance but ultimately just wasn't quite elite to win (Holmes fight/Tyson bouts).
-made a comeback only to get demolished in 2 rounds by another big puncher (Lewis/Foreman bouts).

Am I reaching here...?