George Foreman '73 Vs Tyson '88

Can you provide some details?

 

Not so sure about the chin cracking, but theres plenty of vids on youtube.

Ive seen one where Tyson cracks Mcall in the ribs, Mcall quits and walks off.

 

Is there any way that Tyson, with his 5'10" stature, defeats the 6'4" Foreman from long range off the back foot? Because George will not take a single step in reverse dealing with Mike, and being forced to go continually backwards when typically accustomed to advancing is exhausting. Is there any way Tyson, with his broad, squared up shoulders, does not get Foreman's big mitts planted on those shoulders repeatedly, and shoved backwards time and time again, so far away that George is constantly out of Mike's punching range as Tyson careens towards the ropes and corners? Look at how Foreman-Kirkman began. George could use Mike as his personal bowling ball on the PBA Tour.

What the hell is this conversation about "size?" Foreman manhandled the heavily roided Morrison like a rag doll, but Tommy adapted in a way Mike never proved he could. (Plus, the 6'2" Morrison had height and reach Tyson didn't share.)

Tyson would have to somehow neutralize George's combination of height, reach, natural punch resistance, and aggressive use of unmatched physical strength. Foreman easily outmuscled Frazier in a way big prison bodybuilder Jumbo Cummings later utterly failed completely to. An absolute genetic freak.

Chuvalo would be no picnic for Tyson either. Although Mike is a better boxer in every way, Chuvalo would stand his ground completely, making Tyson provide all the territorial concessions.

At least Bonecrusher neutralized Mike by tying him up inside. Foreman would simply shove him away. No refuge for Tyson this time in close.

 

Tyson would have battered Chuvalo one-sidedly.

 

And Chuvalo would return the same beating to Tyson. I could see Mike getting frustrated trying to hurt with a lot of punchers early only to see Chuvalo keep walking him down and pounding him.

I don't know why people keep selling Chuvalo short, as if he'd leave his arms in the dressing and fight with his face against Tyson.

Mike would be hit, and hit hard.

 

Foreman might last longer against Tyson if he did take a backward step. Simply walking forward and refusing to go backwards is not a smart thing to do against a fast sharpshooter like Tyson.

 

Better fighters than Chuvalo didn't land any punch of significance on Tyson.

 

One more time........you ain't beating Mike with your face or chin.......he is too ****ing fast and the one you don't see hurts you the most and Chuvalo would be totally befuddled by the speed and ultimately stopped, maybe one his feet saved by the ref but he ain't making it if he comes to fight. If he comes to survive and holds/wrestles as much as he can, yeah , he might make it to the end, winning or landing on Tyson with any significance, lol, no.

What those big guys had most trouble with was Mikes unbelieveable speed after they got into the ring with him, that was the number one reason they went into a shell or git the F knocked out because they could not react or simply did not see it coming and got the **** countered out of them aka they got very gunshy.

Just look at Mayweather, not a super heavy hitter but respectable, now, his pinpoint accurancy ,speed, feints and counters makes big guys back off really quick beside because , again they don't see it coming and cannot adjust to it, no imagine similar qualities with Tyon power behind it, game over.

There are ways to really trouble Mike and make him work hard but toe to toe OK corral typ shoot out is getting you on the stretcher quick.

One last example, a finished Tyson, I mean truly finished handled the Black Rhino easily because he came right at him willing to do mano di mano.......

 

Almost forgot about that fight :good

Standing in front of Tyson is stupid and suicidal

No one and i mean NO ONE stood in front of Tyson and survived, except Maybe Ruddock, but at what cost?


Both Douglas and Holyfield used the same game plan, which was to take Tyson into the later rounds, tire him out and stop him.

Holyfield use angles and didnt just stand in front of Tyson. Douglas, used his jab, excellent footwork and 4-5-6 punch combinations to break up Tysons rhythm

Also, lets look at the punches which stopped Tyson in his tracks.
Tony Tuckers short uppercut in the first round
Frank Brunos short right hand in the first round
Holyfields short left hook (Tysons only ever one punch knockdown)
Douglas uppercut in round 10 to Ko tyson.

All of the above, were very short quick punches which caught tyson by surprise and stunned or knocked him down.

Foremans punches are not short nor sweet. His punches are more like the ones Ruddockwas throwing, you can see them coming from a mile away.

Even in 96/97 against Holyfield, Tyson ducked quite a lot of his punches.

I dont see slow ass Foreman landing anything significant on tyson, except pushes and shoves

 

Some fighters after he got out of prison could have stand in front of Tyson and survive.

Pity those fights didn't happen.

 

Only guys i can think of is maybe Tua and Mercer and Foreman, maybe Briggs

Morrison and Moorer had dodgy chins.

But im going by the people he did fight, no one survived training with Tyson

 

Briggs?

McCall vs post-prison Mike - would have been interesting.

You forgot Ike - though he probably would have tried to mix boxing and slugging.

 

Totally forgot about Mcall and Ike.

Mcall, 2bh, was never really that good, he was tough and thats it. He got schooled by Bruno of all people!!!!!

Briggs could punch and by the late 90's he probably had more stamina than Tyson.

I hate to say it, Ike might have killed Tyson when they fought. However there was always the chance the Tyson fear factor might kick in. Ike was a bit of headcase after all, like golota

 

I agree with those who say standing in front of Tyson is generally stupid bordering on suicidal.
But what about standing in front or moving into Foreman ?
That's even worse.

 

Considering Mike's skills declined and McCall definitely not going down from one good punch it would have been curious to see how Mike would have handled Oliver.

Briggs' chin is not the greatest though.

There was no such chance as Ike fearing Tyson.

Ike's actions inside the ring didn't indicated he was made from the same mold as Golota.

Ibeabuchi was a nutcase outside the ring - inside the ring he wasn't even a dirty fighter.