George Foreman claims he trapped Moorer. Do you believe him?

He got lucky, nobody wants to take a beating for 10 rounds prior.

 

Devil's advocate time...

Perhaps the 70's heavyweights were simply better than their counterparts in the 90's. If so, Foreman and Holmes succeeded in the 90's despite their age because they came from a larger talent pool of fighters in a superior era. You can explain Foreman's fumbles against Young and Lyle as the inevitable result of a higher class of opposition compared to his 90's foes.

 

I don't buy it. He is lucky Moorer had weak stamina and chin. He lost 2 of the 3 title fights he had in his second career, and Moorer was swelling him up. He kept throwing and Moorer's chin did not hold up .Simple as that. Moorer should have stayed at lightheavyweight where his power made him very dominant. He would have been great had he stayed there. But at heavyweight he was not great at all.

 

You could say Foreman took a page from Ali from RITJ, he took his punishment, waited for the right moment and then when his opponent wasnt expecting it....BOOM

 

To a certain degree, sure. I've said for awhile that Foreman came in prepared for a long game, and all you have have to do to see that is watch the first round. Usually when a hard hitting fighter with little chance to win faces a quicker and/or younger opponent, what does he try to do? Rush the other guy in the early going, hope to catch him cold and KO him.

What did Foreman do in the first round? Practically nothing but jab. I think Foreman sensed the vulnerability in Moorer, but paced himself and waited for his opportunity to come together. He probably didn't think that it would take as long as it did or that he would take as much punishment as he did along the way, but in the late rounds when Moorer wasn't fresh anymore and wasn't inclined to make Foreman chase him, (which George hated doing) Foreman turned the heat up.

And, as others have said before, it wasn't like it was just one punch out of nowhere or even two 1-2 sequences, Foreman was coming after Moorer the entire 10th round and he had tried to do the same thing earlier in the 8th when he staggered Moorer early there. Compare how active and free he is with his power punches in the 8th and 10th versus the 1st or 2nd, and it's like night and day.

That said, I don't think Foreman did anything as elaborate as deliberately punching with less power in the early going. But I do think he always figured on taking Moorer in the mid to late rounds.

 

Of course he did ... Foreman was cagey and had a strategy .. he did not just blindly throw punches like in the 70's .. he was all about execution ... if he got lucky it was because Moore was overconfident and made a mistake that allowed George to succeed.

 

Yes, I believe he trapped him. Atlas obviously thought Foreman was planning to do the same because the whole strategy he developed for Moorer was to watch out for a sneaky right being set up by a light left.

But, like an idiot, Moorer ignored what Teddy told him to do and he went out, stood infront of Foreman, was blinded by the pawing jab and was knocked out by the right.

Was Foreman planning on doing it in the 10th round? Probably not. He'd have done it earlier if he could have. He was more than likely looking to do it ASAP, but the moment he was looking for didn't come until the 10th round.

 

I believe George was trying to land a specific shot by moving and positioning himself a certain way but I don't believe he took a 10 round beatdown to lull Moorer to sleep so he could land that shot. Foreman had a plan it just took a while for Moorer to get cocky enough to stand still long enough for Foreman to land.
The thing is Moorers corner saw it and most saw it but Moorer was too stupid to listen. It wasn't anything complicated to avoid that's why George struggled with guys who were far more limited, but understood how to beat him.

 

George relied a little bit more on guile the second time around...in fact he never before relied on guile...but I think he did vs Moorer...I believe him all right.

 

if foreman trapped him it was with a large payoff by bob arum...

 

Foreman was softening up Moorer with his jab for a few rounds. It really was a thundering jab and I think it took a lot of game out of Moorer. Moorer was also staying right in front of him rather than moving away from that right hand.

 

I'm pretty sure it was even going into the round Moorer was knocked out in Atlas reminded him to watch out for what Foreman was doing and remember what they worked on in training. Moorer proceeded to completely blow Atlas off and get knocked out.

 

As Nixon said of Reagan during Iran-contra: "I believe him."

 

Ingo did he same thing to Patterson with his "Toonder".

With Moorer being a southpaw, it took a lot longer to get the plan to a point where George could throw "the" punch.

Yes, I believe it.

 

not even close
83-88
83-88
85-86 This guy must of been blind.