George Foreman could have beaten Holyfield

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  1. BrutalForeman

    BrutalForeman Active Member Full Member

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    Foreman in his second career was a much different fighter compared to the prime 70's version. His more patient style had its advantages, especially for an older man with reduced reflexes. So In no way am I saying that Foreman should have fought Holyfield in his 70's destroyer mode for the whole fight

    But what if Foreman picks his opportunity when he sees Holyfield slightly wobbled and goes 100% into beserker-destroyer KO machine mode for 2-3 minutes? I'm not saying that he can keep this up for long, but I think he could have shoved Holyfield into a corner and had a pretty decent chance of KOing him with power shots.

    I say if he would have tried someone would have gotten KO'd. And I'm about 75% sure it would have been Holyfield hitting the canvas.:bbb

    Ideally, for this to happen he should have been fighting at 225 lbs, if he could've gotten down to that.
     
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    It dosnt really work like that.

    Foreman himself was clever enough to recognise The openings he would expose himself to using that kind of tactic and that's why he didn't use it.

    For each step forward George could recognise how many extra moves his opponent could make in that time scale. Athletes can tell that kind of thing about one another. George knew his only hope was to draw evander on to a sucker punch or use his size to wear him down to a stationary target because he's not beating evander to the draw in a firefight.
     
  3. BrutalForeman

    BrutalForeman Active Member Full Member

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    Holyfield displayed his willingness to brawl with anyone. Obviously Holyfields chin and heart are outstanding and he hits decently. But Foremans chin was arguably even better and with his power I think he could have pulled it off. But it would have been the ultimate test for the old man because Holyfield would have hit him more. I think he could have pulled it off in a Ron Lyle esque type finish.
     
  4. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Holyfeild did not need to hit hard to make that much of an effect. Not being able to react fast enough to the impact of a blow causes more damage from a light punch that lands flush than a hard punch that is part rolled.
    Foremans head went up like a pumpkin from Alex Stewart hitting him.

    George had a great ring IQ second time around. he knew his strengths and capabilities and that's why he was so successful. Unless holyfeild stopped fighting like he INEXPLICABLY did against Bowe after knocking Bowe down (in their third fight) then I can't see George going for broke like that.. The old guy knew what to do with what he had. He could not waste nothing at that time of life. He needed to place each shot and make them count.

    i.e the way he finished Cooney.
     
  5. BrutalForeman

    BrutalForeman Active Member Full Member

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    Even if Foreman couldn't get initially past Holyfield's defense, don't you think George could punch Evanders arms until he could no longer hold them up? Of course were talking George going for broke and seriously risking gassing out here.
     
  6. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foreman did great in that fight. He was old and up against a phenomenal heavyweight. If you're looking for missed opportunities, you best look elsewhere.
     
  7. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Foreman surpassed expectations in that fight with Holyfield:deal, and did very well, Holy just fought a very smart and boxed boxed boxed, didn't allow himself to get into a war...

    I thought it was funny how Holyfield was the one holding on in the last round, and the old guy was the one who was forcing the action...:D
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    I thought Foreman gave his all.
     
  9. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very well said! I thought George did just as much as he could have and had that big right of his landed a few more times closer to the button who knows. Had he gone all out I think the only difference might have been his later having been stopped, it took every bit of strength and will he had to not go down under Evander's onslaught.
     
  10. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought Evander took it easy on him later in the fight personally
     
  11. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Nah they bopth went all out & fought well. Watch Foreman snap Holyfield's huge neck back w/a jab at the end of the fight. He even daid Foreman hit him so hard he thought he knocked out all of his teeth. Evander could not have done more without a big risk of being floored, & Foreman fought a prime Evander great, he just did not have the same mobility & speed that would have KOed Holyfield in the 70's.

    Now Holmes did even better. Is that due to him being better then or Evander not fighting as well?
     
  12. AnthonyJ74

    AnthonyJ74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holmes had a cuter style than did Foreman, which enabled Larry to block and evade a lot of Holyfield's punches. Plus, Larry fought a defensive fight, unlike Foreman who pressed the action, so Larry was able to counterpunch effectively at times and make it to the final bell relatively unscathed. Foreman at the end of 12 rounds was puffed up and swollen. Foreman made more of an actual fight of it against Evander, but I still think Larry did a little better -- even though the judges had Larry losing badly. Holmes still had pretty good hand speed, so he was able to get his punches home better than Foreman.
    Foreman's lack of hand speed was a big problem for him during his comeback; part of the reason was probably due to his weight.
     
  13. 9522

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    :deal
     
  14. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So COULD have Calzaghe. The big word is Could. Foreman didn't and that's that.:deal
     
  15. Gary D

    Gary D New Member Full Member

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    If Big George had same mind set in his prime as the 40 something George, Forget it ( he's def the hardest puncher in history ) hands unreal Heavy.