George Foreman from the 90s vs. Zhang Zhilei.

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  1. JohnThomas1

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    SISU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Not to a Tyson poster tho ;)
     
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  4. Dynamicpuncher

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    To me the fact that Foreman couldn't stop Lou Savarese, Crawford Grimsley, showed me that maybe Foreman's punch wasn't quite what it was anymore. Foreman hit Savarese with everything but the kitchen sink and couldn't come close to stopping him.
     
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  5. Man_Machine

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    Extraordinary that a 48 year old Foreman is being discussed in these terms.
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

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    Huh ? All I said was Foreman's power had diminished in his last 3 fights probably due to his age, I don't think Grimsley or Savarese go the distance with Foreman in late 80s or early 90s.
     
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  7. NoNeck

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    Briggs actually beat Foreman.
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

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    When I watched it again recently it was closer than I remembered, I had it 7-5 for Foreman but I can't see 7 rounds for Briggs in that fight for him to get the nod.

    I thought Savarese had a good case to beating Foreman that fight was razor thin close, infact I think he had better case than what Briggs did.
     
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  9. NoNeck

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    Foreman jabbed and moved forward but Briggs landed more and harder power punches. The judges were the only ones with a ringside view who were paid to score it. Briggs’ power probably left an impression.
     
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  10. Dynamicpuncher

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    This is how i scored all of Foreman's controversial decisions in 90s when i went back and rewatched them last year.

    George Foreman vs Shannon Briggs

    1 Briggs
    2 Foreman
    3 Foreman
    4 Foreman
    5 Foreman
    6 Briggs
    7 Briggs
    8 Foreman
    9 Foreman
    10 Briggs
    11 Briggs
    12 Foreman

    115-113 Foreman


    George Foreman vs Lou Savarese

    1 Savarese
    2 Foreman
    3 Savarese
    4 Foreman
    5 Savarese
    6 Savarese
    7 Savarese
    8 Savarese
    9 Foreman
    10 Foreman
    11 Foreman 10-8 point deduction
    12 Foreman

    114-113 Foreman



    George Foreman vs Axel Schulz

    1 Schulz
    2 Foreman
    3 Schulz
    4 Schulz
    5 Schulz
    6 Foreman
    7 Foreman
    8 Schulz
    9 Schulz
    10 Schulz
    11 Foreman
    12 Schulz

    116-112 Schulz


    George Foreman vs Alex Stewart

    1 Foreman
    2 Foreman 10-7 2 knockdowns
    3 Foreman
    4 Stewart
    5 Foreman
    6 Stewart
    7 Stewart
    8 Foreman
    9 Stewart
    10 Stewart 10-8 point deduction

    94-93 Foreman
     
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  11. Man_Machine

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    Well, no, you didn't mention his age - but I did - and, that was the point really.

    I find it noteworthy that Foreman's performances, when he was aged 48, and in the final year of his extended career, are still being discussed in quite specific detail.
     
  12. Dynamicpuncher

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    Well I did say "His power wasn't what it was that's what I was suggesting. Because I don't believe either Grimsley or Savarese go the distance a few years before.
     
  13. Man_Machine

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    Pretty limited but quite salient (and, agreed - Grandpa Foreman deserved the win).
     
  14. Man_Machine

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    I'd agree that it's less likely they go the distance with a more youthful, 45-year-old Foreman, but his punch had to fade eventually.
     
  15. Man_Machine

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    I think prime Foreman would dispatch Briggs in short order. I would wager that there'd be none of Foreman's gassing to seize upon anyway.