George Foreman from the 90s vs. Zhang Zhilei.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by CroBox29, Apr 19, 2023.


  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    27,103
    18,138
    Apr 3, 2012
    It was his gameplan. He blitzed Lewis because he had no other chance of winning. He boxed with Foreman because he just had to repeat what Morrison and Schulz did.
     
  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    27,103
    18,138
    Apr 3, 2012
    Umm…he won the fight. This was a guy who gassed out the last time he fought someone decent. Safety first made more sense than ever for him.

    He also fought the 12 out of breath for a large chunk of the fight, so it’s not surprising that he wouldn’t go apeshi t after the early rounds.
     
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    27,103
    18,138
    Apr 3, 2012
    From a stats perspective (before fighting Briggs):
    Old Foreman was stopped zero times.
    Old Foreman was dropped zero times.
    Old Foreman dropped two decisions and one was to Morrison.
    Old Foreman won controversial decisions in three fights (Schultz, Savarese, Stewart)
    Old Foreman bailed himself out while behind once (Moorer)
     
    cross_trainer likes this.
  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    27,103
    18,138
    Apr 3, 2012
    We could’ve seen a different fight if he blew out Wilson and Foreman still wanted it.
     
    cross_trainer likes this.
  5. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

    9,030
    3,860
    Nov 13, 2010
    Movie was entertaining. John Wick in Finland.
     
    JohnThomas1 and cross_trainer like this.
  6. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,017
    5,784
    May 9, 2023
    Hilarious.

    Cooney was as big as Zhang.

    And if you think Zhang has a power advantage over Foreman you are living in an alternate universe to the rest of us. Foreman may have actually killed the guy.

    Levels.

    But thanks for the laughs during another boring day at work.
     
  7. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,017
    5,784
    May 9, 2023
    He called out Tyson because Tyson was the biggest name in the sport.

    George Foreman was scared of and dodged nobody.
     
    Levook likes this.
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    27,103
    18,138
    Apr 3, 2012
    Cooney was 230, which is categorically much smaller than Zhang, and was so terrible by the time he fought Foreman that the fight should be erased from the collective boxing consciousness. But, now that you bring it up, Cooney did manage to rock Foreman with a left uppercut. I wonder what kind of damage Zhang's left would do.
     
    Pat M likes this.
  9. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,017
    5,784
    May 9, 2023
    How many times was Foreman dropped in his comeback?

    That's precisely the number of times Zhang would drop him. There is no scenario where Zhang beats either version of Foreman.

    And Cooney was one of the biggest punchers of all time by the way. If Foreman could chew a left uppercut from Cooney, he sure as hell could take anything Zhang threw at him.
     
    Last edited: May 24, 2023
    Man_Machine, cross_trainer and Levook like this.
  10. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,017
    5,784
    May 9, 2023
    Foreman's humility led him to downplay his chances against many of the guys he fought.

    As you say, he'd have been confident of going in against anybody. He fought Holyfield and an unbeaten Moorer in his comeback. Anybody seriously suggesting that he dodged Tyson, Bowe and Lewis is a bona fide moron. Foreman made it very clear that he wanted to regain the heavyweight title. He'd have taken a fight against King Kong had that been the avenue to his goal.
     
    Last edited: May 24, 2023
    Levook likes this.
  11. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

    53,300
    45,444
    Apr 27, 2005
    Thoroughly enjoyed it.
     
    Sangria likes this.
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    27,103
    18,138
    Apr 3, 2012
    I'll refer you to Zhang's fight with Joyce. It was more than one left and nobody got dropped.
     
  13. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,017
    5,784
    May 9, 2023
    Joyce is a chump.
     
  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    27,103
    18,138
    Apr 3, 2012
    Probably better than 90s Foreman.
     
  15. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,017
    5,784
    May 9, 2023
    Keep smoking crack mate.

    Joyce is a nobody. Zhang is a decent fighter but you are literally hanging **** on a legend who’d have comfortably destroyed both of them. Aside from Joyce beating an out of sorts Parker, neither he or Zhang have a decent win on their records.

    Zhang is 40 years old and still hasn’t had a title shot which pretty much tells you all you need to know. He’s a decent B grader, nothing more. Joyce is an outright fraud.